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One Reason Guinness Tastes Different in Ireland

11/05/09, by Kate Hopkins Email 1862 views • Categories: Beer

Wellll...."Tastes" may be the wrong word to use here. Let me explain a bit.

Fans of Guinness, of which I am one, are an odd lot, almost to the point of obnoxiousness. Those who've had a pint of it in Ireland even more-so. These folks will claim, with little thought to the accuracy of the statement, that a pint of Guinness in Ireland tastes different from the pints had here in the States(and presumably other places other than Ireland).

"Sure, this is tasty", one might say at a bar will slowly working on a pint. "But you never have had a true Guinness until you've had one in Ireland."

As I've noted before, these people should be mocked. A round trip ticket to Dublin will cost me roughly $900. I like beer, but I have yet to come across one worth nearly a grand.

But, is there something to their claim? Does Guinness in Ireland taste different from one served in the States?

The answer is possibly yes, but it may have to do more with mouth-feel than with actual flavor. Guinness, for those of you who are not fans, do not only have Carbon Dioxide added to the taps. Guinness promotes using a gas mixture containing both Carbon Dioxide and Nitrogen, a process called nitrogenization. This is used as a gas to the taps with a mixture of nitrogen and carbon dioxide. The ratio may vary from beer to beer, bar to bar, or even from country to country. We here in the States typically run a mixture of Guinness around 70% nitrogen to 30% CO2. In Ireland, that ratio goes up to 80/20.

So, that difference in taste? It may be nothing more than a change in how the texture of the beer is perceived on the palate.


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Comment from: TLR [Visitor] Email
I think you might be right. The draft beer in Japan is so much better. creamier and all though the tasts are the same the sense of creamy draft is just to die for and my favorite! I recntly toured the Sapporo Factory last week and I found their beer very creamy and very good. I also drank some of their stout beer and it was so good it made me think of Guinness

I wish we had that same mix here!
PermalinkPermalink 11/05/09 @ 18:49
Comment from: dennymack [Visitor] Email
I think some bad (or merely mediocre) Guiness experiences in the US have to do with the cumulative effect of:
1. an old keg at bars that don't serve much Guiness. In Ireland the keg is always fresh...at least in a bar with patrons.
2. Pour method. Most bartenders know they should pour slowly, but few take the time.
3. Nitro-mix, as you mentioned.
4. Weather. The stuff is just better on a grey day. Drinking Guiness on a clear 80 degree day in California is like having a margarita at a ski lodge. Not bad, but not what the situation calls for.
-To resolve these issues, ride your motorcycle through the rain to Kells in Portland, OR. They will take care of you, and your beer.
PermalinkPermalink 11/06/09 @ 12:23
Comment from: them apples [Visitor] Email · http://www.them-apples.co.uk
That's probably technically correct. I can see how the nitrogenisation process would affect the feel of the drink.

I wonder, though, how important context and culture is? A pint of Guinness served in a British pub is fairly good, but the same pint served in a little country pub in the Irish countryside whilst you're sat next to an open fire does seem to have something of a lift to it.

The science of it can be measured and objectively reasoned, but the cultural and contextual side of it can't. For me, Guiness is a part of trips to Ireland - it's something I've got fond memories of and something I look forward to, and that does tend to colour my judgement somewhat.

I also feel the same way about Tetley's bitter when I'm not at home in Leeds. Outside Leeds, it's horrible, in an old boozer in Leeds, it's the drink of the Gods. It's all in my head, I know, I know. *sigh*
PermalinkPermalink 11/07/09 @ 01:04
Comment from: Crumble [Visitor] Email
First off, I used to work in Guinness's brewery in Dublin so I'm obviously not impartial.

But the reason that Guinness tastes better in ireland is that the water it's brewed from is better than elsewhere. And, as others have pointed out, it's usually fresher, poured better, with cleaner beer lines and a higher turnover.

Also, bottled or canned Guinness tastes totally different to Guinness from a keg (which has a limited 'shelf life').

That said, I don't drink alcohol anymore...
PermalinkPermalink 11/09/09 @ 08:10
Comment from: Peter Tildesley [Visitor] Email
I don't believe gas is the answer although it must make a difference. When I worked as a barman in GB in my youth we had draught and bottled Guinness. I had a customer who could tell the difference between Dublin bottled and London bottled Guinness. which are allegedly made the same way. If you gave him a poured glass of the wrong stuff it would take seconds before he would ask to see the bottle just poured, then pointing to the brewery location whilst handing the drink back.
My belief then and now is that the water used at the different brewerys is the distinguishing factor, which varies from location to location.
PermalinkPermalink 11/09/09 @ 08:16

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