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10/30/08, by maura Email 2186 views • Categories: Beer, Wine, Home Cooking, Tips, Tricks & How To's, Soups, Sauces

Even as many of my friends have switched from beer to wine as their alcohol of choice, I’m still a beer drinker at heart. I like – no – I love wine, but I will almost always choose a beer over a glass of wine. I say almost because given a choice between a Coors and some cheap wine, the cheap wine will win.

This preference carries over to how I cook. My mother cooked with beer, and I started doing it as soon as I was old enough to buy beer. It works as an excellent substitute if red wine is called for in tomato-based dishes. I use it in red sauce, pasta e fagioli, chili and some soups.

For me, using beer is a matter of convenience as well as taste. We always have beer in the house, even though my pain meds keep my alcohol consumption to an absolute minimum. Poor Logan needs something to help him decompress after a particularly tough day of waiting on me hand and foot. And my beer-drinking friends (I do have a few left) shouldn’t have to suffer just because I do. ☺

Obviously, though, taste is most important. I’m not saying that beer is better than wine, just that it’s different. They both give food an earthy flavor, but beer provides more of a subtle layer of flavor than wine does.

Here’s what I find interesting about using beer instead of wine. The rule for cooking with wine is to never use one you wouldn’t drink. I assumed this would also apply to beer, but one day I was making red sauce and the only beer in the refrigerator was a couple bottles of Coors Light (which a friend brought over). Out of desperation, I used a bottle, hoping it wouldn’t ruin the sauce. (Although considering it tastes like crappy water, I’m not sure why I thought it would have any affect at all). Anyway, “shocked” would be the appropriate word for my reaction to the sauce. It was not only acceptable, it was damned good. I thought this was a fluke, so I used it the next time I made sauce. Much to my surprise, it was still great.

I’m flummoxed by this. Does beer have properties that make the “cook only with what you would drink” rule irrelevant, or are we being lied to? I’ve been saying for years that food and cooking are now marketed the same way fashion and beauty products are – to confuse us and make us feel inadequate. It’s enough to make me try some cheap chianti just to see what happens.

Here’s the bigger point, then (and it’s one I didn’t even know I had until I started writing this). We all have rules we follow when we cook. Some of them are rules that have been passed down from the Food Gods. Your own personal Food God can be anyone from Thomas Keller to Mark Bittman to your mother. But we eventually find our way to our own set of rules, don’t we? This is as it should be, because we’re cooking our food in our kitchens to feed our families and friends. Cooking shouldn’t just be about following a theory or a recipe. Even my own Food Gods get it wrong sometimes.

A few suggestions about cooking with beer:

I prefer a beer that’s not too strong, because I don’t want it overpowering the other flavors. A lager works best for me, specifically Yuengling Lager. I am also, at heart, still just a girl from Pennsylvania.

I use approximately equal parts beer and stock. For most dishes that means 12 oz. But you can use more or less of either or both, depending on how much liquid you need and what kind of flavor you’re looking for.

Using flat beer is fine. Poor it into a glass container and stick it in the refrigerator. My sister once stuck an open can of beer in the fridge, and discovered later that she had a can full of “mushrooms”. Using beer that’s been sitting around overnight after a party is probably not a good idea, if only because of the “ick” factor.

Almost all the alcohol cooks outs, but if you have any reservations about cooking with beer (or any alcohol), it’s better to be on the safe side.

Happy cooking.


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Comment from: flaime [Visitor] Email
They both give food an earthy flavor, but beer provides more of a subtle layer of flavor than wine does

I would disagree with this. Anything cooked with beer has an intensely bitter, hoppy aftertaste, in my experience. Wine will add astringency or sweetness, and that layer of acid, but I've yet to experience any sort of the bitterness I get from beer when cooking in wine.
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Comment from: Patrick [Member] Email · http://www.accidentalhedonist.com/patrick/
I also have to disagree with parts of this. I've certainly used both wine and beer for cooking at one time or another, but the effect is extremely different. Wine, especially when it's reduced even a little, adds noticeably fruity notes, sweetness, and acidity that you simply don't get from beer. Not that I would expect any different, since they're entirely different beverages, after all.
PermalinkPermalink 10/30/08 @ 11:22
Comment from: milo [Visitor] Email
I think this is a matter of personal taste... for me, it's whatever I have on-hand. Beer, wine... rum.. anything I haven't drank yet ;)
PermalinkPermalink 10/30/08 @ 11:35
Comment from: varina [Member] Email
Here in French Switzerland no one cooks with wine they would drink, ever. Sometimes if you have wine left over you will use it to cook, but you never drink wine other than the night it's been opened, so you're still using wine you wouldn't drink. Mostly for cooking people used unnamed "white wine" or "red wine" and everything tastes fine, excellent actually. The only exception is Fondue, which must be made with a decent local white, but then there's a hell of a lot of wine in fondue, also I think this is mostly tradition. Anyway, especially when you are only using a splash to deglaze, this works fine. Stinks up the kitchen though.
PermalinkPermalink 10/30/08 @ 12:25
Comment from: Nick [Visitor] Email
I've always interpreted "Don't cook with wine you wouldn't drink" to mean "Don't cook with wine not meant to drink". In other words, don't cook with so called cooking wine. I usually keep a box of inexpensive (but drinkable in a pinch) red on hand to cook with.
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Comment from: Nick [Visitor] Email
As far as cooking with beer goes - it really depends on what I'm making. It just seems wrong to use red wine in chili for example, but a medium bodied lager or ale is very nice. On the other hand, one could hardly substitute beer in coq au vin.

And I don't find that cooking with beer makes food noticably bitter at all, except for one time when I unthinkingly used a bottle of IPA in a bean soup. That was one of the worst meals I ever made.
PermalinkPermalink 10/30/08 @ 13:03
Comment from: maura [Member] Email · http://maurarose.livejournal.com/
So there is no wrong or right answer to the alcohol used. It comes down to preference. Many times just thinking about the origin of the dish helps - what would a home cook 100 years ago have used or have had on hand.

That's an excellent point, Kelly. It can apply to any ingredient. I hope it was clear that it's the point I was trying to make, while also singing the praises of cooking with beer.

Over the years, I've had many people tell me they never considered cooking with beer. I thought it would be a fun subject for a post.

What happens when the fizz hits the hot pan?

It bubbles up for just a second. But I don't use beer in dishes that require a lot of deglazing. I just sweat the onions, garlic etc. for sauce, pasta e fagioli and soups, so no deglazing needed.

Linera, I also cook with vermouth. I think that it works best in quantities of 1/2 cup or less. Any more than that, I'll go with white wine. But a little vermouth is great.
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Comment from: geology byotch [Visitor] Email · http://www.trilobitessawstuff.com
My son is a cook/chef (depending on how you define a cook or a chef; how about a person who cooks well and does it for money)and he has a lovely story about a new friend. THis friend took my son to his father's house for dinner. The father is one of those genius hermit types; he was making chili for dinner and invited my son to assist him in the cooking. My son told me the man used a "shitload of beer" in the chili. "It was the best chili I have ever had, Mom." (And this Mom can cook decent chili--and I do not use any alcohol in it; for richness, I use about a tbsp of olive oil and believe it or not, a tbsp of the meat grease.) I once made a trifle on impulse from whatever I had in the house. I had never made it before but a New Zealander friend had brought one to Thanksgiving one year and it was divine. I tried to make it from memory of taste and sight. I used cheap (Australian) red wine that had sat in the fridge door for like a month, and raisin bread (and the fruit and custard). It was fabulous. I probably broke like three or four rules. Moral of the stories: you can use cheap red wine and put beer in food and if you know something about food and spices, it will probably taste fabulous.
PermalinkPermalink 11/02/08 @ 05:11
Comment from: Nancy [Visitor] Email
I like to use a dash of bourbon in my chili. It's got great, rich flavor with tones of caramel.
PermalinkPermalink 11/08/08 @ 23:41
Comment from: rodney [Visitor] · http://hoosierbeergeek.com
To those commenting about off flavors when cooking with beer - When you cook with wine, you get more sweetness out of the grapes. When you cook with beer, you'll get more bitterness out of the hops. Choose your beer wisely. If you can taste hops in it, you're going to taste even more when you cook with it. If you choose a sweeter beer, such as a Belgian, you'll get a more sugary flavor out of it. Standard lagers, such as Yuengling, make good cooking beers because they won't impart a heavy bitterness.
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