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03/11/07 @ 05:13:33 am, by Kristen Email 3346 views • Categories: Recipes, Desserts, Cakes, Pastries & Pies

My name is Kristen and I am a pastryphobe. [Well, pastry-making-phobe. I assure you, I have no fear of eating it.]

I know there must be other pastryphobes out there, because every Pie Crust 101 primer you read is just one long list of things you absolutely must do just right in order to avoid crappy crust: ice water! cold butter! don't handle it too much! don't stretch the dough! watch out for over-browning!

how to bake a pie

Listen up, pie recipe writers. I'm anxious enough already when trying something new. If you're giving me a recipe in which that many things can go wrong, it's like giving a hypochondriac access to WebMD: I already know all those calamities are about to befall me, so I may as well just lie down on the couch and order a pizza instead.

But, determined to overcome my fear, I decided to just go for it.

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After a record number of different suggestions over on my own blog, I finally went with the simplest one I could find: Martha Stewart's recipe for pate brisee.

The filling was another matter altogether. I've had about as many apples as I can stand for one season, but March in NYC does not lend itself to cheap, plentiful berries of any sort. If I wanted a mix of fresh berries, a pie's worth was going to cost me, oh, around $23. For one pie.

hey, it's March.

So! Frozen berries it is! Besides, this is about the pie crust, right? Speaking of which...

looking suspiciously full

Dry ingredients? Check.

Butter?

damn, that's a lot of butter.

Check. Also, yikes: two sticks is a lot of butter.

At this point, I found several other things I suddenly needed to do: I'll just wash this cutting board first... and wash the cats' water bowl... what else is on the radio?... maybe I'll make some coffee...

I spent about an hour just warily circling the dough ingredients. I didn't even realize I was doing it until I found I had nothing else to do; I was just standing in the middle of a clean kitchen, staring down a food processor full of flour.

I put the tiny cubes of butter in, whizzed them around until it looked like crumbs, then slowly poured a stream of ice water in... at which point, I had to face the fact that my food processor is woefully runty. It didn't make the ball of dough I anticipated; it made this cylinder of semi-dough in the middle with a bunch of crumbly dry bits around it.

I dumped the whole thing in a bowl — the dough cylinder making a resounding whump! as it dropped in — and tried my best to incorporate the wet parts with the dry parts.

doughy

At this point, I smooshed all the little crumbly bits together (gently! without the dreaded over-handling!) until they formed two lumps, one slightly bigger than the other. After they were wrapped in plastic wrap, I left them in the fridge for about an hour, while I went and ordered a full-size food processor from Amazon.

Once my order was placed, I went back to the kitchen to roll out the dough.

not really round, but it's flat

This was actually easier than I anticipated. I bought a nonstick rolling pin, which worked brilliantly, allowing me to roll the dough using only a small amount of extra flour.

filled

I used a filling of (previously frozen) strawberries, blueberries, raspberries, and blackberries, as well as a jar of pitted sour cherries, combined with sugar, flour, and cornstarch.

top on

Then, it went into a 425° oven — for 10 minutes, then I reduced the heat to 350°, and let it bake until it was golden brown and the filling bubbled, which took about 50 minutes, and gave me this:

done!

(Of course, as soon as I took it out of the oven, I realized I do not own a cake/pie server. So, you're not going to get a loving shot of the sliced end result, because I mangled every piece I put on a plate. It looked like messed-up pie. Use your imagination.)

So, after all that trepidation, how was it?

The filling... was not so good. The fruit was much more tart than I anticipated, and after a couple bites, it was just too sour for me — although my husband (who hates fruit pies because they are always too sweet) really liked it. But, like I said, this was all about the crust, right?

The crust... was actually pretty great. It wasn't the best crust I've ever had, but honestly, it was really damn close. It was buttery and flaky but substantial enough that it didn't shatter into crumbs when you put a fork to it. It was a little heavy, and that's possibly because I wasn't all that clear on how thin I needed to roll the dough.

So. It definitely wasn't as sweet as pie, but as easy as pie? Yeah, I guess it was.

Look at me! I'm on the road to being pastryphobia-free! One pie at a time!

Until next week...

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Comments, Pingbacks:

Comment from: sam [Visitor] · http://becksposhnosh.blogspot.com/
I went to a pie dough class with Shuna Lydon, pastry chef from EggBeater blog who told us never to make dough in a food processor because the blades heat the ingredients too much and traumatize it too.
She taught us to freeze the butter first and the then combine in a kitchen aid or equivalent at slowest speed for minimal time.
PermalinkPermalink 03/11/07 @ 06:36
Comment from: Shannon [Visitor] · http://simplycooking.wordpress.com
I'm a pastryphobe too. Banana bread is about as fancy as I get. I've always been put off by those recipes for pie crust and all their admonitions. Also by rolling out dough, which I do not do well. I'm also a yeastbreadphobe, for many of the same reasons, but will challenge myself to attempt a pizza dough. Just do it, right? Your pie crust looked beautiful, by the way.
PermalinkPermalink 03/11/07 @ 06:53
Comment from: Rickie [Visitor]
Congrats on your crust! And remember, a too tart pie filling is nothing more than an excuse to add ice cream. ;)

Also, I'm just outside of NYC (North Jersey, please don't laugh) and I found some relatively inexpensive strawberries three or four days ago -- and they're actually really quite delicious. The other berries though, yes, still far too expensive.
PermalinkPermalink 03/11/07 @ 07:16
Comment from: Christine [Visitor] · http://gypsysoul73.blogspot.com
Congratulations for conquering your fears! You're way ahead of me. :) I've never made a pie and I'm a little intimidated from making my own though I know I need to one day because I love pies. Way to go you! :)
PermalinkPermalink 03/11/07 @ 08:09
Comment from: wineguy [Visitor] · http://sbwineblog.journalspace.com/
I am doing pretty well with yeast bread, but pie crust still has me stumped.
PermalinkPermalink 03/11/07 @ 08:32
Comment from: Beth [Visitor]
Here is the best, and most simple of pie crust recipes. It is my Grammy's recipe, and is almost fool-proof:

1 crust pie (double if you are making a two crust):

1 cup and 2 tbs. flour.
1/2 tsp. salt
1/3 cup corn or canola oil
2 tbs. water

Directions: mix flour and salt. Blend in oil with a fork. Sprinkle water over mizture. Mix with your hands and form into a ball. Do not mix too much, as the more you mix the less flaky it will be. The ball of dough should look like marble. Let sit while you make the filling.

Dampen counter tip slightly with water. Place a large piece of plastic wrap on counter and smooth out. Place dough (half of it if you are making 2 pie crust) on plastic wrap, and top with another large piece of plastic wrap. roll into a circle starting from the inside and roll outward. if it starts to crack around the edges too much, you can sprink a little more water on top. Peel off top layer of plastic wrap, and quickly trasnfer dough to pie pan. Flute edges with fingers.

Filling: 4-5 cups berries, 2/3-1 cup sugar. (less is better), 2-3 tbs. flour (if you are using extra berries, usie heaping tbs. of flour), dash salt.

mix everything but berries together. this lightly stir in berries until evenly coated. put in pie pan, and put dots of butter directly on top of berries. Put top pie crust on and make slits. or other design for ventilation.

bake at 400 degrees F for 40-50 minutes. You may want to place tin foil under pie in over for drips.
PermalinkPermalink 03/11/07 @ 09:11
Comment from: Hannah [Visitor]
I actualyl usually use a recipe for pie crust that requires NO ROLLING!!
All you ahve to do is press it into the pan.
Its amazing, wonderful for tarts, pies, quiche.
Buttery and you can make it sweet or not.
PermalinkPermalink 03/11/07 @ 09:18
Comment from: kevin [Visitor] · http://seriouslygood.kdweeks.com
Kate,
A pie crust made with butter alone is going to be heavier than one made with butter and some shortening because butter has a low melting point and doesn't produce as flaky a result.
PermalinkPermalink 03/11/07 @ 12:39
Comment from: David [Visitor] · http://lovefoodandthought.blogspot.com/
When I was younger and stupider, I made a pie crust using self raising flour (I believe that there is an American English equivalent - I was living in the UK at the time), and filled it with lemon. It was really, really good. Everyone I have told about it since has gone yeuch, that's impossible/stupid/disgusting; and I have been too scared of being unable to repeat success to try it since. Maybe I am deluded, but I clearly remember a soft and buttery, yet not really cakey, pastry.

Now I make pastry occasionally, but have no real confidence with it. I have more confidence with the fillings, and I prefer to serve things in bowls rather than on plates.
PermalinkPermalink 03/12/07 @ 02:04
Comment from: george [Visitor]
Kristin,

Glad you enjoyed? your pie experience. A couple of points about the the standard fruit filled, or any filled, pie. Top and bottom crusts are usually different. If you think about it it makes sense. Top crust should be flaky and yeilding while bottom crusts need to be sturdy but not crumbly.

To this end, many bakers use a "mealy" crust on the bottom and a "flaky" crust on the top. The biggest difference in the two is the texture of the dough when the fat is cut in. Mealy dough is more like corn meal when mixed while flaky is more like pea sized.

Keeping the fat cold is the most critical component.

Beyond that, you are absolutely on the ball with no stretching, docking the crusts when needed, making sure the seals are good and keeping tight control on the liquid in the filling.

Pies shouldn't be so intimidating....they need only be delicious.
PermalinkPermalink 03/12/07 @ 11:29
Comment from: Allen [Visitor] · http://www.eatingoutloud.com
Don't be scared -- disregard the warnings and dive into it. I love making pie pastry and it's not too complicated ... if it doesn't work out well the first time, take your learnings and try again! Even bad pie tastes good ... so don't worry :-)
PermalinkPermalink 03/12/07 @ 20:27
Comment from: french tart [Visitor] · http://frenchtart.blogspot.com
this was a really interesting post, because i just went through a similar epiphany of sorts with pie dough. i'm glad you were able to conquer the fear.
PermalinkPermalink 03/14/07 @ 04:26
Comment from: Brittany [Visitor] Email
Try adding 2 or 3 ounces of cream cheese to your pie crust- I'm pretty sure Martha's recipe is butter, salt, flour, and ice water, right? My recipe is the same, but with about 2 ounces of cream cheese per 1/2# butter. The cream cheese makes the dough really mallable and easy to work with, and it comes out of the oven golden and flakey. I used to be afraid of pies too, but realized if I'm gonna be a pastry chef, this is a fear I need to conquer, and FAST! This dough is practically fool proof, and yes, your fat and liquid needs to be cold- But you don't need to worry about a food processor warming up your dough. I've never bought into that nonsense!
Enjoy!
PermalinkPermalink 04/06/07 @ 11:27

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