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01/09/07, by Kate Hopkins Email 17479 views • Categories: Restaurants

I came across this story the other day:

SAN FRANCISCO — Cameron Cuisinier's dreams of a catering career led him to culinary school. Now he's unemployed and $43,000 in debt, and he's not alone.

From TV chefs to reality shows where the winners get their own restaurants, it's a hot time to be in the kitchen. Record numbers of would-be chefs are enrolling in culinary schools, some of which charge $20,000 a year or more.

At first glance, the obvious question that popped into my mind was "Are culinary schools worth it?"

But upon reflection, the value of the education that these schools provide is only one part of the education. The worth of anything is determined by the consumer of the product or service. The seller in turn only puts out a price that they know they can get. When taking this thought into account, my question then turned into "Do the students and graduates of these schools know what they are getting into?"

When investing in education, I was told to take into account how much I could expect in return, once I left school. Of course I majored in communications and ended up working in the software/aerospace industry, so what the hell do I know.

Still, I'm wondering what some of these students are thinking. If are aspiring to be head cooks or chefs, the numbers still aren't in their favor. From the article:

The number of food service jobs in America rose from 9.9 million in 2001 to 10.8 million in 2005, according to the U.S. Department of Labor. But a small fraction of those jobs - roughly 115,000 - are for chefs or head cooks, and that number did not change significantly during the five-year span.

That's a one to one hundred ratio, for those of you working that out in your head.

This aspect doesn't even take into account the moderate to low wages, the long hours, and in some instances the lack of benefits. It's a tough gig, no matter how you slice it.

I'm not going to sit here and say "Culinary schools aren't worth the money", because clearly there are some who have benefited from these types of institutions. But I do ask "Are these places selling a lifestyle that is difficult to attain?" The folks I have met who attended various acting and music schools and programs were all told to expect little in the way of financial benefits from their chosen crafts. Do these culinary schools effectively communicate this reality to their respective students?

As a side note, I have found that several of the chefs I have talked with over the past few years have gotten where they are through mentoring and apprenticeship, a practice that Shuna over at Eggbeater highly advocates. Is this a better way to break into the industry, or simply a cheaper alternative?
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So my question to you restaurant folk is this - Would you recommend culinary school to someone? If so, why?


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Comment from: Lorrie [Visitor]
As a working chef and a former culinary school student, I often, emphatically tell people "No! Don't go to culinary school!" and even offer to help them find jobs in kitchens, so they can find out if it's something they should even be considering.

I chose to go to one of the big-name schools fresh out of college, after weighing the long term benefits of culinary school versus graduate school in my chosen field, psychology. I'd never worked in a kitchen before, and felt that school was my only way into the industry, though I had no way of really knowing what it was I wanted to get into.

I've been in it for several years, now, and have finally found a great place to work (I actually miss my workplace on my days off, on occasion!)

I have several friends who were somehow inspired by my experiences (I tend to talk about the positives, rather than the negatives), who have chosen to go to culinary schools...and they work a few months in a crappy job, with crappy people...and almost all have gone back to previous job fields - grateful for the experiences, as limited as they were. It's frustrating to me that they're not willing to try different jobs within the industry, after all they've invested in it...but truly, this industry isn't for everyone.
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Comment from: Lisa [Visitor]
I have worked various restaurant jobs in the past and went to Culinary School in between some of those jobs. Prior to attending culinary school, my opinions varied as to the value of that type of education. Now, after going to school, working jobs that I loved and some that I hated, and then pursuing a different career path altogether, I would not recommend it.

The best education I received came under the tutelage of passionate chefs in the various jobs I worked. I loved Culinary School and would love to go to Culinary School for a living, but the restaurant industry is (for me) long hours, mediocre pay, and being at work during all the times that your loved ones are not.
PermalinkPermalink 01/09/07 @ 09:11
Comment from: V Smoothe [Visitor] · http://www.futureoakland.com
Is culinary school worth it? It depends. I'm glad I went, but I think that most of my classmates went in with expectations that were not realistic.

I went after working in kitchens for a while, and worked as a cook all during school. For me, culinary school was valuable in the sense that it opened up doors that were previously unavailable to me. I started out in small neighborhood burger joint type places, and before school, I felt extremely trapped in a specific niche. I wanted to work in super high-end restaurants, but nowhere even remotely nice would even talk to me.

Once I enrolled in school, I was able to get a much better job at a much better restaurant, simply through virtue of being a culinary student. Once I finished, I was able to get a stage and eventually a job at a now-Michelin starred restuarant. That was my dream, and without my culinary degree, it wasn't an option.

The pay sucks, and people need to realize that going in. Talking to my peers in school, it seemed that they were led by the admissions representatives to believe that they would be making $20/hour right after school. In reality, its more like $10-$12, and it doesn't go up much until you're a chef. If you aren't realistic about that going in, you will likely be very dissapointed.

I enjoyed the business classes we took at culinary school, and learned skills there that I still use today. Culinary school most definitely did not teach me anything about cooking.

So I guess it depends what people are looking to get out of it. I would never recommend someone without industry experience go to culinary school, but for people who are already in the field and want the benefits of having the degree on your resume, it can make sense. Just be ready to work two jobs for a couple years to pay off those student loans.
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Comment from: Barbara Fisher [Visitor] · http://www.tigersandstrawberries.com/
As a graduate of a culinary school, I would say that whether or not it is valuable depends on what you want to do with it.

I had a great experience in culinary school--I got to meet great chefs, got the experience of helping cater huge events, and I learned an incredible amount of useful stuff. But, I never expected to make a lot of money in food--I had already worked in restaurants, as a caterer and in bars, so I knew what food service was like. Long hours, low pay, generally no benefits.

Many of the younger kids in culinary school had no clue. The most realistic of them already had jobs in the industry, they often, like me, already had degrees in other fields, and they , like me, went out of their ways to gain as much experience as possible while in school. We did this by volunteering for events, doing extra work, helping our chefs cook in their restaurants or do catering jobs and by doing as many internships or externships we could manage. We went above and beyond the curriculum--we essentially did both culinary classroom work -and- got an apprenticeship like Shuna did.

What is the upshot of all of this?

Well, if you want to be a chef, in truth, I would say, go forth and get yourself a job in a kitchen, paid or unpaid. If you really want to work in a posh place, offer to take an unpaid position, just to learn, while you work at your paying job elsewhere. This way you learn whether or not you really want to do this or not.

If you aren't scared off, I would suggest doing as Shuna did and finding a good apprenticeship with a great chef. Culinary school is great and it opened a lot of doors for me--but my aim was never to become a chef! (If after apprenticeship one wants to go to culinary school, one always can, but I think it is a grave mistake for anyone who wants to be a chef to start right out in culinary school with that goal in mind. Culinary school does not a chef make--experience is what makes a chef.)

I went to learn as much as I could in as short a time period as possible so that I could write well about food, and could pass on what I learned as a culinary instructor myself. I never intended to be an executive chef, because I like my family too much and want to see them! (If I were single, or disliked my family--things might be different....)

So, is it worth it?

Yes, it was worth it for me, but no, it is not worth it for everyone.
PermalinkPermalink 01/09/07 @ 13:02
Comment from: Sheryl [Visitor] · http://www.saveyourfork.com
I would say it depends on where you want to go within the industry. The programme I took was very much geared towards high end restaurants and hotels - there was no accommodaton for students who wanted to run a small cafe or a catering company, for instance. It was also designed for kids coming right out of high school, and the group of older students I was with who were looking at job retraining or skills upgrades really didn't fit into the overall heirarchal system.

My programme was also focused almost solely on French cuisine, which really wasn't my main area of interest.

However, while I think someone with the drive and interest could definitely go further by apprenticing with a talented chef than by going to school, there was also a lot of historical and technical stuff that you just wouldn't learn with "practical" training. Also, unless the chef you're working under has a particular interest in the less glamorous topics of safety, sanitation and nutrition, a training facility where these are part of the curriculum would give the aspiring chef a leg up over someone working as an apprentice with no formal training.

I think the ideal would be a short training programme that teaches the basics, and gives the student the skills to walk into a kitchen and not chop their hand off. From there, the nuances are better off learned from a mentor with a vested interest in seeing their employee do well, as opposed to an instructor.
PermalinkPermalink 01/09/07 @ 13:10
Comment from: Shannon [Visitor] · http://www.foodphreak.com
My husband changed careers in his late 20's and decided to go to culinary school. $36,000 later, he has never had a long term job in the industry. Despite the degree, you aren't going to start at much more than $10 an hour with little to no benefits. He had dreams of making much more than that and maybe even owning his own business someday but the long hours, low wages and high pressure environment was more than he was willing to put up with. The school surely didn't teach the realities of what he would be faced with. Anyway, more often than not, restaurants are looking for experience, not an education.

Now, he wishes he would have stuck to his old career (he was a lighting director for concerts and such) where he was making double what he brings home now. I feel for him. His dreams are crushed at a very costly price.

At least I have my own personal chef at home... heh.
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Comment from: Caroline M [Visitor]
my husband went to culinary school at a later age (32), having worked in restaurants his whole life and fully knowing what he was getting into. the chef instructors at his school were quick to tell new students what to expect from the culinary world. the husband said that most younger students had no idea what they were getting into and were really surprised that school was hard, tedious (lots of endless chopping of vegetables and “ICK! we have to debone a chicken? Gross!” and was not full of "BAM!" . the expectations some students had were not logical, e.g. most new students totally expected to own their own restaurants right out of school or get their own TV show. the chef instructors were quick to bring them down to earth. the husband said that a lot of the students refused to work while in school, not even part time doing prep work at a restaurant, which is something that is recommended. What’s the point of going to culinary school and totally hating life afterwards?

That said, the husband has some opinions about culinary school in general. Like any school, you get out of it only what you put into it. some of the better chefs he has worked with did not go to culinary school, BUT they had talent and drive and a will to learn from everyone they worked for. The husband’s school was particularly expensive (having supported him while he was in school, I should know). some community colleges are now offering up to date culinary programs that are just as good as more expensive educations at a fraction of the price. If you don’t have a bloated ego and are not into prestige, those programs are good.
PermalinkPermalink 01/10/07 @ 04:43
Comment from: Tony [Visitor]
I believe what you get out of any learning experience depends on what you put into it. Having said that, I have worked my ass off for 11 years in this biz and have worked as an Executive Chef for eight of those years.Chef jobs are few. Good chef jobs are even fewer!
PermalinkPermalink 01/11/07 @ 08:39
Comment from: Nicky [Visitor] · http://www.deglazing.com
I can see how some one would ask what is culinary school worth, but I think that in some way minimizes the obvious benefits of gaining an education. Culinary schools teach students techniques, discipline, and love of quality ingredients. (and that coupled with everything else taught in culinary school is invaluable). Any form of education is never a waste and I think that is particularly true with a culinary school education.
PermalinkPermalink 01/11/07 @ 13:31
Comment from: James N [Visitor]
As someone who is looking into culinary school later in life (36) I can say the schools I've looked into have made no promises of being a chef immediately. The admission directors I've spoken with have been up front with the fact that, though you may not have to start as a dishwasher, you will have to work your way up.

As someone seeking a second career, this makes sense. I've never worked in an industry where just having schooling was enough. Experience is mandatory. School is great for learning some basic skills and techniques, but with most careers your real learning starts AFTER school.
PermalinkPermalink 01/24/07 @ 06:47
Comment from: Everest [Visitor]
I'm finally glad to have found people who know how cheffing is.
PermalinkPermalink 02/23/07 @ 05:13
Comment from: sathish [Visitor] Email · http://www.culinaryartsonline.com
Hi,
This is sathish.i have gone through this site it was interesting about culinary school.in this school there are different types of courses.For more information go through this site...
PermalinkPermalink 03/26/07 @ 07:43
Comment from: David Suh [Visitor] Email
$42,000 for my education and starting pay in NYC was $7 as my very time in a real kitchen. Working and working and working upon hours.. got up to $9. Finally got broke and moved back to Austin TX and got hired at one of the top hotels in the world. My current pay is $10.70 and can't pay the bills or the loan that rapidly growing with interest. My suggestion is to find a kitchen and get taught by a good chef that's willing to teach you. Culinary school was a good experience but definitely not worth the money I paid for. I'm in debt for the rest of my life unless some how I can pay off my loan.
PermalinkPermalink 07/13/07 @ 20:25
Comment from: Neil [Visitor] Email · http://eggbeater
I was interested inyour apprentiship comment.Could u give me some info on hoe to do this.
PermalinkPermalink 08/11/07 @ 21:19
Comment from: DeLila [Visitor] Email
Wow, I've read all the comments and find it very interesting. I'm a 46 y/o female with kids that are about to leave the nest.

I'm currently in night school for Culinary. I started out my life with a passion for working in kitches and did a great job. I have always LOVED to cook.

I found, however, when young: that I was bothered by all my friends having fun and I was stuck in a kitchen cooking while everyone else was having fun. So I left the industry and have worked in the office 9-5 atmosphere.

I'm burnt out with sitting at a desk, listening to everyone complain and yell at me and disrespect everything I've worked hard to obtain.

I'm going back to my passion. Paying cash for my degree at a small community college. I'm willing to start out on a low level and work my way up -- I know I'll do it, without a problem. Money?? hmmmm, while it is important to pay the bills -- I'm sure I'll earn enought to pay my small mortgage and eating won't be a problem, because I'll be working with FOOD!!!

All I need after I graduate, is somone to give me a chance to prove myself.

I don't want to be a star, I want to make people happy.

Take care,

DeLila
PermalinkPermalink 09/09/07 @ 02:45
Comment from: Richard M [Visitor] Email · http://www.bashlaw.com
I am planning to attend Arkansas Culinary School in Little Rock, Arkansas starting in June. My advice, having already spent a career in aviation and also one as a lawyer? Either find an apprentice slot or go to a community college's culinary program. That is infinitely cheaper than Le Cordon Bleu or C.I.A.

It will take me 19 courses to graduate with an A.A.S. in Culinary Arts. Piece of cake.

Be realistic. Be patient. Learn all you can. Avoid the expensive schools.


Best regards,

Dick...
PermalinkPermalink 04/16/08 @ 15:29
Comment from: Carrie [Visitor] Email
I think it's foolish for young kids that look up to these celebrity chefs to rush into a culinary school. A lot successful chefs usually cooked most of their life before they entered culinary school. I love to cook. I love to experiment in the kitchen, it's my favorite way to express my creativity. I can run the egg station at a busy breakfast restaurant, as I have before. However, I do not want my love for cooking as my career. I want to enhance my skills through culinary school--as a personal interest and maybe have my own restaurant or catering service. My plan is to go to a cheaper culinary school-well, not a culinary school but a trade school with a culinary program. Some of you may scoff at the idea of that, but unlike other culinary schools; this school actually provides you to get all the General Education requirements required for a 2-year degree. I plan to double major! Finish a bachelors degree in Business Administration with a concentration in International Business and take the core classes of the culinary program as I will have the GE needed for both degrees. If you really want to be a culinary student, there are smart ways of going about it.
PermalinkPermalink 05/23/08 @ 06:32
Comment from: SteveL [Visitor] Email
So far as I can see, obake and David Suh's comments are the most realistic.

Cooking school can gurantee you nothing. $40,000 can give you a nice vacation, a nice car, can pay off a down payment, and allow you to live good in 1 or 2 years. And most important, the same amount of money can give you a degree from an university which can get you an ENTRY LEVEL JOB OF $20/hour!

The loan owner even lend the money to students who are so young to have enough credit to get that big sum of money. The staff at culinary schools always said that 95% of the students come to school because of student loan, and the career department is always busy to get jobs for their graduates, usually in Publix, some chain restaurants or some hotels. When I said I tried to go overseas to learn from some big hit in Europe, they never gave me a response. They are not opened yet...., We don't speak the same language...., They don't accept the offer... blah blah blah. One of my friend tried to call straight to England about his appreticeship, and they said they never saw any documents about him.

I maybe a little too aggressive, but in my past three years in the culinary industry, most good chefs told people that they don't need culinary schools, the same thing their mentor telling them. Not only you can learn the skill for free, but you are GET PAID to learn, as long as you are working hard with good attitude and passion. Passion and positive attitude are not needed to be taught.

They may talk about dreams; they may talk about love; they may talk about sucessful stories. But when they get serious, being true, and are worrying about you, they will tell you no. As I am working in this industry, the TRUE TOP professionals like Eric Ripert, Charlie Trotter, or Susur Lee, they quit cooking school early, their employers gave them money to attend the school, or they NEVER go to school. Some top chefs did go to school, like Roy Yamaguchi, but he went to CIA when he was pretty much a good chef already. He just want to get a cert to show people who don't even care.
PermalinkPermalink 03/19/09 @ 02:41
Comment from: mimi [Visitor] Email
OK WELL TO START OFF I AM CURRENTLY A STUDENT AT A CULINARY INSTITUTE AND ME PERSONALLY HATE IT.I USED TO HAVE A GREAT PASSION FOR COOKING AND THE INSTRUCTORS ARE COMPLETE A$$HOLES! THE SCHOOL IS ITSELF IS AROUND $44,000 SERIOUSLY WHAT WAS I THINKING!ANYWAYS IF YOU THINK REALISTICALLY WHAT AND HOW YOU WANT TO DO THIS THAN IT MAY WORK, BUT IT IS VERY INTENSE.I WOULD RATHER START AS A DISHWASHER AND WORK MY WAY UP THAN HAVE TO GO TO SCHOOL TO BE A CHEF!I WAS A FOOD AND BEVERAGE. MANAGER BEFORE I MOVED TO AUSTIN TO GO TO THIS SCHOOL MAKING DECENT MONEY NOW HUH,I AM A NANNY CAN'T FIND A RESTAURANT THAT IS HIRING , AND IF THEY ARE THE PAYS SUCKS.YOU GO TO SCHOOL TO BE A CHEF YOU ARE PRETTY MUCH WHORING YOURSELF OUT TO FIND WORK.YOU EX TERN SOME WHERE FOR LITTLE TO NO PAY FOR 3 MONTHS AT THE SCHOOL I GO TO WHAT KIND OF SHIT IS THAT, WE HAVE BILLS AND MOUTHS TO FEED,REALLY SERIOUSLY COME ON NOW.SO NO I DON'T THINK IT IS WORTH IT DO SOMETHING ELSE,IF BEING A CHEF IS WHAT YOU REALLY WANT TO BE THAN GO FOR IT,GOOD LUCK.WHAT A MISTAKE FOR ME.
PermalinkPermalink 03/30/09 @ 19:25
Comment from: Naigel Lee [Visitor] Email
Wow, everyone here has really helped me out on a few decisions. To help everyone else, I have a few words myself. I am a 26 yr old looking into my own interest. Seriously if you want to do well in cullinary, go work in MCD's first. It's an idea. I worked there when I was young. I liked it. Now I'm considering a change back with them to see if I can handle being a chef. I know McD's ain't going to make me a chef for all the smartasses.

Anyhow, Cullinary school is $42k all said in done here at the cullinary art institute but as many have mentioned, it is exactly what you do with your education. You must be willing to work hard, creative to become successful. I knew that feeling when I was in McD's, in Walmart. I got lazy bcuz at 19 and being in management already, said I can make hell more money if I do sales. I did sales and I did make more but after 5 years of sales, I am left not knowing WTF to do now. No passion, no drive. You chase after money and you'll get fuked.

Will all that said, just remember that they are no true chefs without years of dedicated work and knowledge. Don't be like me and hop everywhere even tho I know many industries inside out and can adapt bcuz you know too much for your own good. Don't be greedy, be passionate. Its ok to sacrifice. Remember its better to give than to receive bcuz you have the ABILITY to give.

I would recommend anyone in highschool to choose one of their electives as cooking or cafeteria if they're considering hospitality. If you really enjoy it, start work somewhere like Mcd's, earls, cactus club or wherever and go to school young. Then while working you can apply the knowledge. If you're much older like me, I thnk school before job posting will get you nowhere. Get the job, see how you like it and decide if you want to move forward with it bcuz school is an expereince itself. Usually one that is above step 1. (dishwashing). If you start with dishwashing, you will not be too consumed about making a fancy dish bcuz you still need to know about dishwashing. I think I will go to cullinary school after I volunteer time at restaurants n McD's to see if I can hack. Keep in mind, when you're old, your body can't hack it like it was 16. If I still enjoy it, I will go to culinary school and work that til I become like Gordon Ramsay. If I can't, I just go find another way to make lots of money and learn to live with my decisions.

Anyone feel they want to drop me a line or advice feel free. Fallen_chicken@hotmail.com
PermalinkPermalink 05/27/09 @ 15:47
Comment from: Summer Jobs for 15 year Olds [Visitor] Email · http://jobsfor14yearoldsguide.info/
sO NICE, I'm currently in night school for Culinary. I started out my life with a passion for working in kitches and did a great job. I have always LOVED to cook.

GOOD POST!
PermalinkPermalink 07/13/10 @ 20:11
Comment from: Emily [Visitor] Email
I have to say, I attended an art school, and they gave us the same BS. Everyone thinks if you attend this great art school, and work really hard, and have talent, you will become a wealthy and famous artist. Never mind the fact that many "successful" artists, some famous, are barely making ends meet. All of these types of schools have to prey on that. They real question is, OK, why do these kids believe it. How dumb is the average 17 or 18 year old? But hope springs eternal and it has nothing to do with age. It's the American dream, baby. We all need to get over it, face reality, and find some other meaning in our lives besides wealth and fame. If that happened, I think there would still be as many people wanting to cook. Because it makes them happy. But they wouldn't be willing to pay such a high price for culinary school because they wouldn't be deluded.

Of course, then there's the whole idea of becoming a "great artist" or a "great chef" and then you're a martyr to that cause and you'll do it at any price. Really? ANY price? And how noble are the motives of those making you pay that price? Please, people. Think about it. And where is this desire to be "great" coming from? Low self-esteem? Maybe it's about the same price as years of therapy, but consider that. You may need therapy later anyway to realize that being "great" isn't as "great" as you hoped. So then what do you do?
PermalinkPermalink 08/24/10 @ 03:45
Comment from: DB [Visitor] Email
It seems that far too many people are dissillusioned when they enter the culinary world. TV shows and food channels have been both a positive and a negative to the industry. People enter the culinary world expecting to be the next big thing. The reality is, for every Anthony Bourdain and Gordon Ramsey, there are 1000 nobodies toiling away as line cooks. If your goal is money and fame and prestige, than cooking school or the cooking industry is not for you. If your passion is food and creativity within the realm of food regardless of what you make, than maybe it is. A degree may open doors for you but it will not anchor you to your job. You have to prove yourself through hard work, passion and dedication, even when it the day has been long, your feet and back are killing you and you have had a trash can thrown at you in anger (has happened a time or two). Some of the best days of my life were working as a pizza cook in college making jack for pay and being up until 2AM washing pans. I miss it somedays.

As for the cost of school, don't look at the name or the price. Look at the curriculum, the instructors, the class sizes and the program certifications. Many community colleges have the same curriculum, certifications and talented instructors as the "big boys." Some of the smaller programs even are able to have their own restaurants or affiliations with them to get you "real world" experience in the program. These cost less than 1/3 the price of the bigger names. If you are going to culinary school as a prestiget thing or because you want to put it on your resume, big mistake. If you are going becasue you want to learn the basics and understand the huge negatives that come with the positives PLUS have a passion for food that has filled your life, then it is a very good idea.
PermalinkPermalink 11/12/10 @ 12:07
Comment from: Matthew Broome [Visitor] Email
I am currently a high school senior and i was wondering if anyone would be willing to help me find the awnser to the above question. All the comments provide some help, but if anyone would email me and be willing to help that would be great. Send me an email at jjmmbrm2@gmail.com. Please and thank you.
PermalinkPermalink 12/08/10 @ 06:49
Comment from: Steven Brock [Visitor] Email
After working in 9 diff kitchens/resturants in the past 10 years with no culinary degree it is safe for me not to go to school. Everything they teach u learn hands on and u get paid. I have out worked countless culinary graduates. Speed an endurance u learn from washing dishes. School doesn't teach this and it is only half the battle. I know with in ten mins of working with someone if they got what it takes. Being in this industry for this long I learned to cook first before being the chef u have to be the top cook to even be considered for the sous. So go to work somewhere the cooking is basic. Applebees longhorns some chain. Perfect the skills u learn there which will be basic. An when ur the best move on. Once u can proove urself as a solid line cook you will be an asset in any kitchen u work in. Creativity comes with time and practice and not everyone is good at this. This is the main factor that sets the chefs apart from the line cooks. Consistancy is another deal breaker for a lot of wanna be chefs if u can't cook the same thing 100 times and it look and taste the same then your also done. Oh and the 11 and 13hr days an having to deal with 40 different people day in an day out.
PermalinkPermalink 01/16/11 @ 23:13
Comment from: Nick [Visitor] Email
I am glad what I have achieved without going to culinary school. I feel that I have gotten lucky because I started out cooking while I was in college (not knowing what the hell I wanted to do) working in the cafeteria. Four years later, I'm working as a cook in three of the top restaurants in the city. Yes, I have three jobs (two are full time and I have a family) Of course, there have been disappointments but if you can hack it, learn to have a thick skin, you will wind up meeting the right people in the industry who will appreciate your hard work and passion to learn. The cooks I work with now who have gone to culinary school are not the hardest or best workers. Learning food is not that hard, but I'm sure to become chef it is almost a necessity to have that degree. I'm going to work longer and challenge myself more before I decide to go school. Even though I probably won't need unless I decide I want to be a chef. You must have a good chef personality and learn to manage people and be the man. Otherwise, your wasting your time paying for culinary school and an education you can learn being a prep cook.
PermalinkPermalink 03/19/11 @ 22:30
Comment from: Alan [Visitor]
I can personally tell you no, culinary school is not worth it. I busted my ass and took out tons of loans from various companies just to make it through in hopes that MAYBE I could get a sous chef position. Wrong, wrong, wrong. I am now stuck working 2 jobs that pay garbage just so I can pay back my $100,000 piece of paper that is doing nothing more than decorating my room. Get an apprenticeship and work your way up the ladder of a restaurant if you want to be a chef don't waste your money and the next 25 years of your life paying off your loans.
PermalinkPermalink 08/22/11 @ 20:26
Comment from: sheela benthorn [Visitor] Email · http://sheela
I am currently attending culinary school at Le Cordon Bleu, there I am in the baking and pastry program, I will tell you DO NOT GO! They treat you like a pay check not a student. They promised to fit me into small classes so that I could learn easier. Me thinking that the largest class would be 20 and the average around 10 or 15 I was SUPER WRONG!!! They shove 40+ people in each class. All the tables are filled with people and there is hardly any room to do anything. You have to be partners for whatever you do. They promise so manny things that just don't happen. You can not do anything about it because there is so much fine small print that they can get away with anything. They dropped courses like, the chocolate and sugar class promised to us. Through the schooling I felt neglected and jibbed out of what I payed A LOT of money for, $37,000... If felt bad to not get the attention I thought I was paying for. I knew what I was paying when I went into it. I wouldn't even be bitter if the actual schooling was half way decent. I felt like I was a pastry student so they didn't exactly care as much as they did about the culinary. I know hardly any new techniques and I am a great student with over a 3.0 GPA so it is not that I simply wasn't paying attention. I am about to go on externship and feel like my employer will be shocked at how manny questions I will have... Sorry but I am a very reasonable person and I don't think culinary school, at least the one I went to, is a good option. Learn from experience not from forking out cash :/
PermalinkPermalink 10/24/11 @ 18:12
Comment from: Sab [Visitor] Email
How about the pastry program? Is it more worthywhile than the culinary program? I understand a lot of people can learn and self educate about cooking but it seems harder to do with baking/pastry/sugar art. What do you all think?
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