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05/22/06, by Kate Hopkins Email 14274 views • Categories: High Fructose Corn Syrup (HFCS)

I've gotten the following two e-mails, one day after the other. Both represent what I think are the two basic stances people have on High Fructose Corn Syrup.

E-Mail 1:

Ever since I first saw some information on your site about HFCS I've been trying to learn more. I now see a lot of sites and references to HFCS, how it's made, the politics surrounding it, and so forth, but no real justifiable claims that it's any worse for the human body than any other sweetener. The only semi-health-related claim I've seen is that "the body processes it more like a fat than a sugar," which my brother (a biochemist) said is hooey, after giving me a 30-minute lecture on the chemical properties and structures of fats and lipids v. glucose and sugar molecules and the body's metabolic processes for each. "Fat people drink lots of soda and soda has HFCS so HFCS makes people fat" isn't the kind of logic I buy, even if it could be a contributing factor. The oft-cited HFCS study about mice and their heart and reproductive complications is troubling, but the experiment and its results are only ever told anecdotally; where's the study? Has it been repeated? Has it been studied at all in people?

E-mail #2:

I've stumbled upon your website and have discovered foods that contain this waist-increasing heart-killing artificial sweetener. I am armed with information now when I go to the grocery store and will be ever-vigilant of what I purchase and what comes home with me. I've been hearing bad things about high-fructose corn syrup and am growing more and more concerned for my children's health. How are they supposed to go out in the world, or more importantly, to school and eat their lunch and stay healthy? Is there any legislation in the works to ban this horrible substance? If they can ban cigarettes to minors because it causes lung cancer, how can they not ban a product that has been shown over and over again to cause obesity in children ultimately leading them to a life of diabetes, heart disease, and other sad illnesses?
Thank you for your eye-opening website and just from a look in my pantry, I see a lot of junk food that needs to be, well, junked!

One e-mail represents cautious skepticism, the other represents an out and out indictment of all things containing HFCS.

The truth? Well, the truth is that we don't know the truth. No one can say for certain that HFCS is better or worse than cane sugar. When we look to the Corn folks for information, all they point to is the fact that the FDA has allowed the use of HFCS, so it has to be safe, right?

Of course, that's a bit disengenuous on the Corn folks' part, because the FDA has NEVER tested HFCS, nor accepted any outsourced test results. The have deemed HFCS as "generally regarded as safe", which essentially means that No one has been reputed to have died of the stuff.

Any excess of sweetener is a bad thing, whether it's sugar or HFCS. The question that no one seems to be willing to answer is "Which is worse - Too much sugar or too much HFCS?" Until this question is answered, any indictment of HFCS is premature.

That being said, there's much to circumstantial evidence that excessive Fructose is really bad for you. I've mentioned some of the test studies here. The short version is that excessive frutose in the diet can lead to a magnesium imbalance in the body, spurring bone loss. The University of Minnesota produced a study where it was found that in men, fructose produced “significantly higher levels” of trigylcerides in the blood than glucose does and that “diets high in added fructose may be undesirable, particularly for men.” Finally, University of London researcher P.A. Mayes wrote that excessive fructose consumption causes the liver to release an enzyme called PDH that instructs the body to burn sugar instead of fat. Are these issues worse than those caused by cane sugar? No one seems to be able or willing to answer that.

The one part of the HFCS debate which bugs me is the one that surrounds personal responsibility in regard to sugar intake. According to "An Omnivore's Dilemma", HFCS has not replaced sugar consumption in the US, it has merely added to it. In other words, not only are we consuming the same amount of sugars we did 20 years ago, we've added HFCS consumption on top of it. Before we can say "HFCS causes obesisty", we have to be honest with ourselves and say "Too much sweeteners cause obesity", because the consumption of both absolutely plays into our weight gains.

It'd be nice to restrict HFCS intake, if it wasn't for the fact that it's in more foods than many people realize. From ketchups to soups to even cough syrups, HFCS has been made a staple of the processed food revolution. Avoiding HFCS has been made a difficult proposition that many people, including myself, are too undisciplined to address on a daily basis.

In addressing the above e-mails, it should be said that banning HFCS is an unlikely possibilty, at least not until we recognize our own culpability in its consumption. But its excessive usage needs to be addressed and reduced. I would love to see food processors explain their addiction to the stuff, and in the process of this confrontation, we find out just how bad (or not) the stuff is for people.

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Comment from: shel [Visitor]
I'm going to just throw this out there for an answer. My partner bought a pint of Ben & Jerry's Vanilla ice cream and one of the ingredients is listed as "liquid sugar". Does anybody know if that might be a new name for HFCS? It seemed kind of strange to me.
PermalinkPermalink 05/22/06 @ 06:45
Comment from: Matthew Kayahara [Visitor] · http://everythingfromscratch.blogspot.com
That's my question, too: What other names does HFCS go by? I haven't seen many products up here in Canada that list HFCS by name on their ingredient lists, but I did just find out that "glucose/fructose" is a generic name for HFCS. Are there other labelling terms we can watch out for?
PermalinkPermalink 05/22/06 @ 07:24
Comment from: stephen [Visitor] · http://www.stephencooks.com
Kate...I've been lurking, following your posts about this issue, and honestly I'm having trouble getting excited about it...with regard to your next to last paragraph -- I'm not sure I understand why I should accept the statement "It's nice to restrict HFCF intake" -- isn't the real issue the keeping intake of carbohydrates, fats, calories etc., in balance and within healthy parameters?..and even though HFCS is "hidden" in many foods where we don't expect it, the fact is we don't have to read the fine print or sort through long ingredient lists to find out if one ketchup or soup is higher in carbs or calories than another and make our selections that way, to avoid excess intake, right? So, the presence of HFCS doesn't block us from making intelligent choices in this regard, unless I'm missing something. Also, as far as I know, no one is dosing unprocessed produce or meat with HFCS (please correct me if I'm wrong!) so we still have available the best route to a healthy diet: buying and preparing our food from unprocessed ingredients. I guess what it comes down to is that I always have assumed that manufactured foods are not as healthy as real food, so to get all excited about the idea that they are using cheap sweeteners to enhance the taste of the "food" sort of reminds me of the Police Inspector's reactio n in Casablanca when he learns that gambling is going on in Rick's club: I'm less than surprised, and certainly not shocked in the least.

Am I missing something here?
PermalinkPermalink 05/22/06 @ 08:39
Comment from: Elizabeth [Visitor]
To me, it has to do with the quality of the product. When I see things made with HFCS, it means to me that they were looking for a cheap sweetener, or something with a long shelf-life (which I understand is one of the benefits of HFCS) rather than something with the best flavor. While I don't know for sure that sugar provides a better flavor than HFCS, at least the Coke with cane sugar vs. Coke with HFCS is enough to make me a skeptic - the Coke with sugar is a much better product, to me.

Of course, that's pretty non-scientific becuase who knows what other differences there are in the formula, but...
PermalinkPermalink 05/22/06 @ 08:48
Comment from: Michael [Visitor] · http://thedarkerside.to/rants/
@Matthew,

look for a Kosher mark on the food you are about to buy. If it is labeled Kosher it will not have HFCS in it.

I don't really think there ARE a lot of products here in Canada that do contain it, but then I don't buy a lot of prepackaged food to begin with.
PermalinkPermalink 05/22/06 @ 10:30
Comment from: kostia [Visitor] · http://www.kostia.net
Elizabeth's right. It's all about cost and shelf life. I don't think I care very much health-wise (as both Kate and stephen said) about it, because too much sweetener is too much, regardless of type. It's when HFCS is added to food that *isn't supposed to be sweet to start with* that it becomes the problem. There's no sugar added to hamburgers and chicken. But if you get them some places, they do have HFCS in them. This excerpt from a Believer magazine article is what got me up in arms:

"High-fructose corn syrup was, to the food industry, a miracle product. Six times sweeter than cane sugar, it could be made at a fraction of the cost and used as a preservative, a sweetener, or both. By the late 1970s it was being pumped into frozen foods to protect them from freezer burn and to "long-shelf-life" products to keep them "fresh-tasting." The very definition of empty calories, it was added to packaged pastries to make them look as if they were baked in the past decade and to fast-food drumsticks and hamburgers to keep them from shriveling up under heat lamps. In the early 1980s, Coke and Pepsi switched from a fifty-fifty blend of cane and corn sugar to 100 percent high-fructose corn syrup (HFCS), lopping 20 percent off their production costs. Critser calls the shift "one of the most important changes to the nation’s food supply.""

I don't know whether you (Kate) have linked to this article before, as I admit I haven't read all of your HFCS posts. Apologies if this is a redundancy.

"Children of the Corn Syrup":
http://www.believermag.com/issues/200310/?read=article_dean
PermalinkPermalink 05/22/06 @ 11:30
Comment from: Nicholas Caratzas [Visitor]
If it is labeled Kosher it will not have HFCS in it.
Not exactly. As Beth points out at the bottom of this thread, HFCS can be perfectly Kosher, except at Passover. So you need to find something marked "Kosher for Passover" to make sure it doesn't have HFCS.

With regard to email #1, the chemist may be missing a minor point that complicates the analysis. It is true that the human body digests sucrose (cane sugar) into glucose and fructose similarly before it can use it. And X calories worth of fructose vs. X calories worth of sucrose will yield the same energy (in fact, the fructose is sweeter.) But this doesn't mean they're physiologically interchangeable.

The major difference is that our bodies don't require insulin to use fructose (which is why "diabetic candy" is often made from fructose.) Since insulin helps to regulate satiety, there is a possibility that X calories worth of fructose MIGHT leave you hungrier than the equivalent energy value of sucrose. There are several studies suggesting this is in fact the case, but I believe many scientists believe further research needs to be done before the issue is completely settled. Still, if this turns out to be true the implications for weight control are obvious.

There are additional differences between the two in how they affect blood sugar levels, and possibly plasma lipid and uric acid levels, that make the analysis very complicated, which is why whether a high-fructose diet may lead to obesity is still a very open question.
PermalinkPermalink 05/22/06 @ 11:35
Comment from: Matt [Visitor]
3 years ago, I had a physical exam during which it was discovered that my triglycerides were very elevated - over 600. While I eat too much, I exercise regularly and get a lot of fresh fruits and vegetables in my diet.

I discovered the controversy surrounding HFCS while researching triglycerides. I decided to exclude HFCS from my diet. That is the only thing I did. I still continued to eat the quantities I had and did not remove sweets from my diet - just HFCS.

Within one year, my triglycerides were down to 200 (and my cholesterols had evened out as well). So I continued. Within one more year, all my numbers were within normal range, something that had not occurred from age 38 to age 44.

Since I am not a controlled experiment, there could probably be other factors influencing this. However, as a layman, all I can say to the people I know is that once I laid off HFCS, my blood counts became normalized.
PermalinkPermalink 05/22/06 @ 13:13
Comment from: Matt [Visitor]
P.S. I also went from a weight of about 230 to about 205.
PermalinkPermalink 05/22/06 @ 13:17
Comment from: Nicholas Caratzas [Visitor]
Matt,
Even though you weren't a controlled experiment, your results are consistent with what many scientists have suggested.

Congratulations on your accomplishment!
PermalinkPermalink 05/22/06 @ 17:18
Comment from: Barbara Fisher [Visitor] · http://www.tigersandstrawberries.com/
After I stopped regularly drinking soda, and started drinking water instead, I lost four dress sizes worth of weight. My energy level went up, and my health improved.

Was it simply because I dropped the empty calories from my diet, or was it because I removed a major contributor to HFCS from my diet? I don't know, but I do know that I only drink soda now and again, and I don't even like the taste of it anymore, because it tastes -too- sweet to me.

In more recent years, I have also stopped eating most processed food products and fast foods and went back to eating the mostly whole food diet I grew up with.

I discovered something--my tastes changed. Now, when I -do- eat a hamburger at McDonald's and actually analyze the tastes I am experiencing, I can see that it tastes primarily sweet--from the bun and the ketchup mostly. The meat has a nondescript flavor, and the cheese has a very salty taste, but a very creamy, plasticy texture that connotes richnees, but which doesn't taste right.

I never thought about it before, when I ate the food regularly. I just ate it and liked it. Now, I can discern how overly sweetened and salty and artificial most of these processed foods taste, and I don't like it.

On top of everything, fast food tends to make me sick if I eat it anymore. I think that my body, as well as my taste buds, are not accustomed to those foods any longer.
PermalinkPermalink 05/22/06 @ 18:00
Comment from: Master Anonymous [Visitor]
Why not go all organic? I am an avid label reader and I noticed that about 95% of organic foods on the market do *not* contain anything artificial. Ever.

Of course, you may complain about costs and prices of organic foods - but your health is more important...

I am an organic food eater, veggies and meats... By the way, Hansens Soda do not have anything artificial in its sodas - they are actually pretty good.

There ya go.

Master Anonymous
PermalinkPermalink 05/24/06 @ 00:01
Comment from: JokerCross [Visitor]
This is why everyone should drink Dublin Dr. Pepper, the only bottling company still using the original formula of Pure Cane Sugar, rather than HFCS.

Fine, so it's not really all that much better for you. It IS tasty though.
PermalinkPermalink 05/24/06 @ 00:44
Comment from: Angela [Visitor]
A recent eye opener for me was reading the ingredients on a loaf of whole wheat bread and seeing HFCS in the list. It's out of control when they add it to bread, for heaven's sake!
PermalinkPermalink 05/24/06 @ 04:48
Comment from: deannie [Visitor] · http://deannietime.blogspot.com/
I am no expert but I have noticed that I do felt better when I cut out HFCS out of my diet. I have suffered from severe UTI's for many years and this single step was a huge step to getting this under control. I learned a lot from reading the posts of others here today. Thanks!
PermalinkPermalink 05/24/06 @ 06:11
Comment from: Marcus [Visitor]
There's no reason that HFCS is the sweetener in so much of the food we consume other than the fact that our dependence on HFCS was politically fabricated by ADM.
PermalinkPermalink 05/24/06 @ 07:38
Comment from: Chris [Visitor] · http://www.chrisamiller.com/blog/
This is ridiculous, and you should pay more attention to your biochemist friend. HFCS has the same chemical composition as sugars that we ingest in natural foods. Our body has no trouble digesting it.

The reason that HFCS is bad is the same reason that too much sugar is bad. It's usually contained in heavily-processed foods with little nutritional value.

Soda is the best example - 9 teaspoons of sugar (or HFCS) and no redeeming nutritional value. When some people go through 64 ounces a day, it's no surprise that they're fat-asses with a number of medical problems.
PermalinkPermalink 05/24/06 @ 08:25
Comment from: Preggo in MN [Visitor]
Everything in moderation.

This is coming from a woman semi-addicted to all sweet things. But I've watched many a person addicted to sugars in my family get overweight and struggle with their health, loosing weight and become diabetic. No fun.

So, if your basic biology lessons in HS and college haven't stuck in your head, take a look around your home, your office, your neighborhood and look at all the overweight or sick people who consume sodas (diet or not), candy bars, cookies, etc on a daily basis. This should turn a light switch on in your head if you're really questioning how bad this stuff is for you.

Everything in moderation. A cookie for dessert every once in a while won't kill you. A soda a couple of times a week probably won't make you diabetic. But if you indulge on a packet of cream cheese puffs after every trip to the grocery store, you're probably in trouble.

Anyhoo, since I found out I was pregnant, I've tried to find alternatives: products out there that don't list HFCS or other sugary ingredients (including artificial sweetners) - or at least don't list it as one of the top ingredients. (I don't need to pass the sugar habit on to another generation!)

Organic foods are a beautiful thing - but, yes, they can be spendy. So, Mott's makes a yummy applesauce without additional sugar. Izzy's are sparkling fruit juices: 70% juice and 30% sparkling water and they taste better than sodas to me. There are cranberry juices out there that are 100% juice - just read your labels. They cost the same as the others that do add sugars. Unless you're willing to go 100% organic, you're probably not going to be able to avoid it all together. But as long as you're making sure you're trying to eat healthy and not over-indulge in sugars, fats, etc, you're probably going to lead a pretty healthy life.
PermalinkPermalink 05/24/06 @ 08:25
Comment from: Steve-oh [Visitor]
I've been HFCS free for about eight years now. I didn't quit for weight reasons, but general health reasons. Since then, I've had fewer headaches and migraines, fewer colds, and have been more regular. Most important, I don't feel as hungry during the day. I think HFCS, and sugar in general, increase the appetite.

Most organic foods and foods at health stores are HFCS free. Although, the other day for the first time, I saw organic corn syrup listed as an ingredient.

Recently, I've tried to minimize my sugar intake all togther. I try not to eat anything at one time with more that 8 grams of sugar per serving.
PermalinkPermalink 05/24/06 @ 08:28
Comment from: Norman [Visitor] · http://84rooms.googlepages.com/
You should look up Michael Pollen's writings on corn syrup. He has done some amazing reporting on this stuff.
PermalinkPermalink 05/24/06 @ 08:52
Comment from: Moose [Visitor]
I've been avoiding HFCS for about 6 months now for weight loss reasons. As a result, I've lost about 10 pounds or so. In addition, I feel a lot healthier and my general mood has improved. A good place to get food that doesn't have HFCS added if you live in the northwest US is Grocery Outlet. Because they have a lot of food that is imported, if you shop carefully, you can stock your house completely free of HFCS. I've seen sodas made from cane sugar, organic ketchup, pasta sauce made in canada with no sugar/cs added whatsoever, etc.
PermalinkPermalink 05/24/06 @ 09:38
Comment from: Tim [Visitor]
"Avoiding HFCS has been made a difficult proposition that many people, including myself, are too undisciplined to address on a daily basis."

You're kidding, right?

I've got celiac sprue disease - so I can't eat gluten (comes from wheat, rye, barley, oats), which is in or added to more than 95% of prepared food products. It's rarely explicitly labelled and usually has to be found through secondary or _tertiary_ ingredients (food starch, soy sauce, _chocolate_) There are entire books published by the Celiac society with 'safe' and 'unsafe' ingredient lists. We memorise these and don't eat something new unless we _know_ what's in it.

If you can't be bothered to scan a paragraph of ingredients to look for 'sugar' or one of 5 synonyms, you deserve to get fat.
PermalinkPermalink 05/24/06 @ 12:05
Comment from: JJs [Visitor]
About a year ago, during routine check ups my doctor found my blood sugar to be dangersouly low, 36. We went over a bunch of things and decided to do the test again in 2 weeks to compare. The next result was 34. She told me to eat more, that I don't eat enough.

During the months afterwards, I started to notice a trend that when I would drink a soft drink, I would become sleepy, lethargic, and barely able to stay awake. This led me to monitor the intakes of sugars, including HFCS. After cutting as much processed sugars (and HFCS) out of my diet as I can, my tests returned 86.

To me, I'd found my answer to the HFCS and refined sugars question.
PermalinkPermalink 05/24/06 @ 12:33
Comment from: James [Visitor]
Like many others, the only change I made to my diet was cutting out soda. I went from 245 plus to 182 pounds in about a year with no change in exercise levels.


Soda is evil.
PermalinkPermalink 05/24/06 @ 12:35
Comment from: Dan [Visitor]
Waaaay at the beginning, someone asked about what "liquid sugar" was in their pint of Ben & Jerry's.

It is NOT another name for HFCS. It is what it says it is - sugar (that is, sucrose) in liquid, not granulated, form.
PermalinkPermalink 05/24/06 @ 14:05
Comment from: lauren [Visitor]
Carbonation may also be a culprit when talking about how sodas make you feel, along with insulin response or, in caseof diet sodas, the theory of an insulin-like response when the brain percieves artificial sweetness.

I rarely buy the "chemically identical" argument. I shouldn't be able to see the phase changes in fluorescent lights, or hear that small electronics are on, but I can, and many people can. Our physical threshold of perception is sometimes wider than we credit it to be. If HFCS isn't from the exact same source as sugar, and isn't produced via the same process that produces cane sugar, then I'm not suprised that people react to it differently.

Like Tim, I have a celiac disease. We're fortunate, in a way, because we get to look at our diets in terms of the pain and illness they can cause in the short term. We don't have to think of diabetes 20 years down the line, we know what we eat can ruin our lives. That immediacy makes radical diet change much easier. I'm working on eliminating all processed foods from my diet, and I feel better every day.
PermalinkPermalink 05/24/06 @ 17:24
Comment from: Dave [Visitor]
In reference to the McDonald's comment... as for taste, sure. And salt, absolutely. However, McDonald's food is not processed. WHAT?!?!?! Yes, it's true. I was at a scientist exploration of that very topic three hours ago. McDonald's is hammered on all sides and it's fun to believe that they are the root of all dietary evil -- and it's easy to latch onto something like that. But in reality, they get 100% pure beef straight from local ranchers. Freeze it, cook it. They use real white meat chicken breast. They use real Grade A eggs. They get their produce replenished faster than your grocery store. Nothing is manufactured, nothing is pumped full of high fructose corn syrup (except sodas which are not their fault and sauces which are partly their fault). Yes, they over salt. Yes, they use too much fat and grease. Yes, you should be careful how much you consume and how often... but ignorance regarding McDonald's has actually helped lead to the kind of laziness that has allowed the infiltration of High Fructose Corn Syrup into the overwhelming majority of products on your supermarket shelves. Rather than sit back and point a finger at a big logo, perhaps we should look at actual processed food most people consider to be safe, but is far less safe than McDonald's. I know, it's harder to go after HFCS, it isn't a huge target to point at. But overeating McDonald's food causes problems. Eating HFCS at all causes problems.
PermalinkPermalink 05/24/06 @ 17:25
Comment from: ben [Visitor] · http://bengarland.com
It sucks that the ketchup in the states has HFCS in it. I'm in Costa Rica at the moment, and let me tell you the ketchup here is about 10 times as sweet as what you find in the US. Not sure if the ketchup in Latin America has HFCS in it (probably just plain sugar) -- but it's insane. It tastes almost like a tomato jelly.
PermalinkPermalink 05/24/06 @ 18:08
Comment from: Michael [Visitor]
To comment on: "I would love to see food processors explain their addiction to the stuff"; I would say it would have to do with, as many of you have already stated, pure economics. Corn, as many of you know, is heavily subsidized by the tax payer in the US. Because of this, corn byproducts such as HFCS and even corn oil have become affordable, if not downright cheap. If you've ever tried to squeeze oil out of a cob of corn, you know how hard (and expensive) it must be.

Without subsidies we just might go back to old sugar, though it will probably be beet sugar as opposed to cane, which is very labor intensive. On a side note in reference to Coca-Cola, depending on the country its formula is different. In Spain, for instance, it is sweetend mainly by "sugar" as oppsed to HFCS, as in the States. This does lead to a "hotter", "crisper", and more old-skool taste, which I do prefer. The extra caffiene, which has its own taste components, don't hurt, either.

And while the bottom line is what drives these companies, (they take a heavily subsidized [read: cheap] product and work it into a product with high profit - a convenience food)taste must also be a concern. I must admit that it was clever how these food companies changed the basic taste of their product over time to minimize costs. I suppose, contary to what I said earlier, so many people prefer the rounder, sweeter taste of HFCS over sugar that given the option, they may still choose HFCS, much like people who prefer artificial sweeteners purely based on aste. Yuck.
PermalinkPermalink 05/25/06 @ 00:08
Comment from: Steve-oh [Visitor]
"It sucks that the ketchup in the states has HFCS in it."

Actually, Heinz Organic does not have HFCS.

A couple other stories about HFCS. I e-mailed a local ice cream manufacturer as to why they include HFCS in their product. They gave me some story about viscosity and that it helps create that creamy texture.

I e-mailed Altoids about three years ago and asked if the Glucose syrup in their mints was corn based. They said yes. After that I noticed they started to list corn syrup as an ingredient on the tins.

Remember, I've been on this crusade for the past eight years, well before it started to permeate the mainstream. :)
PermalinkPermalink 05/25/06 @ 06:22
Comment from: Mantra [Visitor]
About 10 years ago a friend of mine told me to avoid HFCS because it could directly trigger all sorts of bads things including diabetes and obesity. It basically came across like HFCS is to sugars what trans-fatty-acids are to lipids and fats. I've been avoiding them since then. The one thing that got my attentions was that he was told about HFCS by his father, who is one of the leading molecular biologists in Israel. Good enough for me!

http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=shafrir+sugar+fructose&btnG=Search
PermalinkPermalink 05/25/06 @ 10:31
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PermalinkPermalink 05/25/06 @ 10:33
Comment from: Daniel Van Riper [Visitor] · http://www.albanyweblog.com/
I'm astounded that no one in the above comments has mentioned two important self-evident points about HFCS in processed foods.

1) HFCS is used not merely as a cheap sweetener, but it is used to bulk up processed foods. It is the cheapest thing available to make, for example, ketchup thicker and more substantial. Think of soda as artificially flavored HFCS and you start to see what the corporations have done to our food supply. Are we eating food, or HFCS?

2) HFCS tastes lousy. As a sweetener, it is vastly inferior to cane sugar. In my opinion, if you arrange all the available sugars in a hierarchy from best to worst, HFCS is at or near the bottom. (Vermont maple syrup is at the top.) Cane sugar in various forms is near the top, that is why it has been so popular for so long.

For a while, I thought that I was losing my sense of taste as I aged. Then I discovered that all the things I used to like to eat were full of this bulking garbage. Sure, a bottle of Annie's organic ketchup costs more than Heinz. But Annie's is made of tomatoes (!) while Heinz is like the soda, artificially flavored HFCS.

-dwvr
PermalinkPermalink 05/26/06 @ 16:18
Comment from: Former Seattle-ite [Visitor]
After reading an article in the New York Times in January about Asian immigrants becoming diabetic relatively quickly after moving to this country after adopting a "western", i.e. processed foods, diet (including the ingestion of HFCS), I decided that for the rest of this year I would remove HFCS (and, to be honest, hydrogenated & partially hydrogenated oils) from my diet. No extra exercise and no other changes.

So far, I've lost 30 lbs. and feel so much better it's SCARY. I've had fewer "colds", had fewer "allergic" reactions, and have far more energy. Most interesting to me, is the complete absence of CRAVINGS. As I have been dieting since, oh, puberty, I know a thing or two about cravings when you're avoiding certain foods.

I suspect the reason you're not going to see any studies of HFCS on humans (without a lot of kicking and screaming) is because the results have the potential to reveal some not-so-nifty side effects of ingestion of this stuff.

I have never drank soda, so I naively thought that I wasn't taking in that much HFCS. To my surprise, I took two boxes of food to the local food bank. Items included bacon, Stove Top stuffing, ketchup, packages of muffin mix, pudding packages, salad dressings, cans of soup, pasta sauce, mayonnaise, tartar sauce, the list goes on and on.

Although I have 242 days left on my "experiement", I'll let pundits weigh in with their various opinions. As far I am concerned HFCS is OUT for good. How much better my body feels is proof enought for me.


PermalinkPermalink 05/26/06 @ 22:41
Comment from: Tal [Visitor]

Two journal articles for those who who still need "proof":


Dietary Fructose Reduces Circulating Insulin and Leptin, Attenuates Postprandial Suppression of Ghrelin, and Increases Triglycerides in Women
http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/89/6/2963


Postprandial Plasma Ghrelin Is Suppressed Proportional to Meal Calorie Content in Normal-Weight But Not Obese Subjects
http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/90/2/1068


PermalinkPermalink 05/28/06 @ 08:04
Comment from: Tal [Visitor]

You can no longer rely on what you think you know to be true. When I tried to buy non-corn syrup soda at passover this year, I found it ALL was sweetened with corn syrup. I googled corn syrup+passover and came up with the following:



Ask Rabbi Lerner
Is Corn Syrup Kosher for Passover?
http://judaism.about.com/library/3_askrabbi_c/bl_pesachcornsyrup.htm


PermalinkPermalink 05/28/06 @ 08:29
Comment from: fructose [Visitor] · http://www.articleworld.org/index.php/Fructose
Check out this introduction article on Fructose:
Fructose
PermalinkPermalink 07/01/06 @ 03:26
Comment from: sparky 55 [Visitor]
shel,
Ben and Jerry's sent me tnis:

Response (George) - 07/11/2006 07:32 AM
Hi there,

Liquid sugar is sugar that has been added to water in order to liquify it. We use liquid sugar in manufacturing our products because we don't have the facilities to handle large amounts of dry sugar. Liquid sugar is a blend of water and sugar (sucrose). The source of the sugar is extracted primarily from sugar beets. The liquid sugar is 67% solids (sugar) and 33% water. It is made by mixing water and sugar together under high shear conditions. The resultant product is no different than if we mixed dry sugar and water when making our ice cream.

Thanks for asking,

Ben & Jerry's
PermalinkPermalink 07/11/06 @ 18:34
Comment from: Henok [Visitor]
What is excessive? How much is too much? Excess of anything can be bad with severe consequences.

My fiancée is on a hunt to stop buying anything with Corn Syrup, too paranoid and I am trying to convince her that it's ok to have a moderate intake.. Am i wrong? Should I be as paranoid?

Also, what would be moderate, I’m guessing it's anything less than excessive :)
PermalinkPermalink 10/05/06 @ 05:55
Comment from: Rick Manning [Visitor]
I was just in Canada for one week and once again I am disgusted that Pepsi and Coke add High Fructose Corn Sweetener to their soda in the U.S. In Canada, they use "glucose, fructose, and/or sugar," as the second ingredient listed on the packaging versus the HFCS in the U.S. It is very apparent in the taste difference of the two. Unfortunately, this is once again another example of corporate America nickel and diming us to death to put money in their pockets and sacrifice the QUALITY of the product. I think it is time, we as AMERICANS demand QUALITY!!! Another example would be the cakes and pastries made here and sold at grocery stores here in the U.S. I can't even stand to eat any of this garbage made here anymore. Go to Quebec City or Montreal and go to any boulangerie(bakery) along the streets(they are everywhere) and try the cakes and pastries. Go to Brasil and do the same. Go to Europe and it's all the same---less sweet, but much much better tasting. What is sad is that only 19% of Americans have a passport. That means most of us don't travel outside of our country to ever even realize how lacking in quality and overloaded with fake sugars and additives and preservatives our food and beverage products are here in the U.S. IT'S TIME WE DEMAND CHANGE AND STOP ACCEPTING CRAP!!!
PermalinkPermalink 10/30/06 @ 12:15
Comment from: Cheryl [Visitor] Email
Hansen's soda does have glucose-fructose syrup in it. I just read today that this is a generic name for HFCS. Does anyone know if this is in fact true?
PermalinkPermalink 06/26/07 @ 17:19
Comment from: Cheryl [Visitor] Email
Hansen's soda does have glucose-fructose syrup in it. I just read today that this is a generic name for HFCS. Does anyone know if this is true?
PermalinkPermalink 06/26/07 @ 17:21
Comment from: Janet [Visitor] Email
This page at an Agriculture Canada website suggests that "Glucose/fructose" is a generic name for HFCS
http://www4.agr.gc.ca/AAFC-AAC/display-afficher.do?id=1172167862291&lang=e
PermalinkPermalink 07/30/07 @ 16:31
Comment from: Bomquisha [Visitor] Email
So my question is, in "Super-size Me!" the movie about the guy eating McDonald's all three meals for 30 days, what caused the beginnings of serosis of his liver. He didn't drink, had formerly been healthy, was it the Hydrogenated oils or the HFCS? I wrote several papers over the last year in school about these toxic ingredients and am now convinced after having cut a good portion of them out of my diet that I am doing and feeling better. I stop by this site to discover the alternate names for HFCS, and am off to look some more because I have a sinking feeling that fructose and glucose/fructose aren't the only names besides HFCS. Are there any other names for hydrogenated oils???? Yikes. I heard on "CBS Sunday Morning" that we Americans spend less than 10% of your income on our food stuffs and nutritional intake, down from 24%in 1942......I am going to make sure I spend at least 20% on good choices and make packaged and prepared food not to mention fast-food a thing of the past in my world. It's the least I can do for my taste bud's and my health. Eat great live well.
PermalinkPermalink 11/18/07 @ 08:47
Comment from: maxnort [Visitor] Email
I'm mobile, so bear with me-I cannot accept HFCS=Sucrose chemically just because sucrose breaks down into the components of HFCS. The body's act of breaking down sucrose uses energy, and makes the chemical equation different. This alone means the claim of "functionally the same" cannot be true any more than gasoline and gas with alcohol are the same. They are similar, each with pro's and con's. Since this is America, land of the bottom line, cost wins against health in a naive population. Companies are not there to protect our best interests before their profits.
PermalinkPermalink 12/04/07 @ 01:14
Comment from: Tamara [Visitor]
Great to know about the Dublin Root Beer. I ordered some for my boys. Abita Root Beer is also made with cane sugar in Abita Springs, Louisiana. My boys love it.
PermalinkPermalink 01/14/08 @ 10:03
Comment from: Alexandra Lynch [Visitor] Email
I've exhibited carb sensitivity for years. However, now I finally reached the point where I have to cut out HCFS from my diet. And you're right,it's in everything prepared.

Fortunately I am a good cook and my vaccum sealer and pressure canner are my friends. but it really sucks when I want to eat out for a change or travel.
PermalinkPermalink 02/14/08 @ 18:42
Comment from: G.Ann [Visitor] Email
I've had post-nasal drip for years. 27/7/365. Thought I was just alergic to the world.

Then I spent 6 weeks in Australia. While there, I happened to notice that almost nothing is sweetened with corn syurp - HF or not. My drip dried up. I thought it was because I was on the driest inhabited continent on earth (I was) and there was nothing in the air to be alergic to.

When I got home, I continued eating as I had down under. My drip was still dry. "I'm cured!" I cheered. Then I began drifting back to my old diet. The drip returned.

Through experimentation I discovered that corn syrup has been the source of my 20+ years of discomfort. Now I avoid it almost completely. When I inadvertently eat something with corn syrup, the drip starts up within about 15 minutes and I know what to avoid next time.
PermalinkPermalink 02/29/08 @ 10:21
Comment from: Michael D [Visitor] Email
HFCS is sent to the liver as a foreign substance and can cause liver damage similar to alcoholism over time. It is not "just like" sugar. I hate HFCS, I hate subsidies that make corn a part of so many foods in the US. I hate genetically modified classified as an insecticide corn being allowed to be passed off as the real thing by a morally bankrupt FDA. I hate apathetic gullible Americans taking all of this sitting down, chiming in to places like this to add brilliant tidbits like "eat it in moderation and you'll be fine". The end
PermalinkPermalink 05/31/08 @ 23:47
Comment from: AmyBeth [Visitor] Email
You want to know what's KILLING US??It's the HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP. A CHEMICAL that is labeled FALSELY as a sugar!! It is a sugar like rubbing alcohol is a vodka!! HFCS is a poison that has been used as a cheaper sugar substitute. The FDA NEVER TESTED IT!! Watch King Corn DVD. The cornsyrup industries would NOT let anyone in the manufacturers! WHY?? Becuase they do not want the public to see that it's a CHEMICAL!! Do not eat foods with HFCS!! Google it and READ the information! The corn industry does NOT want you to know the truth and the FDA does not give a crap. The FDA is PAID by the corn industry!!!
PermalinkPermalink 06/18/08 @ 10:50
Comment from: Jeannie [Visitor] Email
I have read the entire list of posts here and I am still in search of the different names HFCS uses on labels. I saw that glucose/fructose is the generic name, but are there any others? Is corn syrup also in the same category and should be avoided?
The posts have been very informative and helpful. I have started reading labels more intently and have been giving up anything with HFCS in it. I think that if the company will not allow us to watch it's manufacturing process of HFCS they must be hiding something. Isn't it curious as to why most Europen countries as well as Canada and Mexico do NOT use this ingredient.
PermalinkPermalink 07/24/08 @ 11:51
Comment from: Lance Erley [Visitor] Email
Is HFCS worse than other sugars? Well, for one thing, I believe fructose is the ONLY carbohydrate shown to elevate uric acid levels. And, elevated uric acid levels is tied to many health related issues, such as Heart and kidney disease, high blood pressure, diabetes, and elevated cholesterol.
PermalinkPermalink 12/09/08 @ 03:12
Comment from: Mer [Visitor] Email
watch this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM
PermalinkPermalink 09/06/09 @ 22:58
Comment from: Michael Crosby [Visitor] Email · http://www.mikeinbrea.com
I'm a vegan (pretty much so) for the last 15 years. Even though my triglycerides are in the normal range (150), they have been measured to be as high as 200.

Of course both of those numbers are high. And my blood pressure is borderline high.

Being vegan, the enemy has always been animal and animal based products. Now, I'm realizing HFCS and fructose itself in fruit, may play an important part in my HBP and triglycerides. So, like other posters, my evidence will be anecdotal, but I'm excited to find out. I have a feeling this might just be the missing link.

BTW, here's a great lecture on fructose:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjxyjcvW7RE
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