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ORATB v.3: A Butcher Reponds

12/06/05 @ 06:00:00 am, by Kate Hopkins Email 1438 views • Categories: Meat, Our Readers are the Best!

Last week I had linked to an article entitled "10 things your butcher won't tell you". Regular reader and professional butcher Jace read the article and wrote me, saying that (and I'm paraphrasing here) she was full of it. I asked him to provide his perspective, and he agreed.

So I'm handing the keys of this blog over to him for one post.

Oh, and feel free to stop by Jace's blog. The man knows his meat.

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Many misconceptions seem to be rampant amongst American food aficionados regarding their meat supply. Some seem misguided, some misdirected. Some are just flat-out wrong. When Ms Black wrote her article, it seems she brought up some issues regarding the meat industry that the consumer should be aware of, but took it to far and accused your local butcher of being inept.

She writes: “'I've [a butcher] never touched a bandsaw or even handled a side of beef.' Their main job now is to cut up smaller pieces, known as primals, into individual portions, as well as to shape and tie roasts, and to grind meat for sale.”

She's only telling half of the story, and inflating the issue that she is actually right about. It is only partially true that your neighborhood butcher hasn't handled a side of beef or a bandsaw. Many meat cutters haven't ever handled a side of beef because it is largely unnecessary. It doesn't take much skill at all to break down a side of beef, hence Tyson/IBP, Excell, et. al's ability to pay unskilled, immigrant labor to do this for them. If you showed an experienced retail meat cutter where the primals come from (not that they wouldn't have a general idea anyway), I'm sure they could do it with minimal instruction. At that point, it's just a giant jigsaw puzzle. Lastly, only a few subprimals can just be sliced and packaged. And, those that can, such as the shortloin and rib, still have to be cut on a bandsaw, even in a retail environment.

Nearly every chain grocery store still employs actual meat cutters with knowledge and skill. It's the chains such as Wal-Mart and SuperTarget (who used to, and who still employ people with the skill but who rarely use it) who do not wish to appease their customers by taking on a slightly higher payroll.

When she says of your butcher, "No special orders," Ms. Black is just being absurd.
I've never worked in nor shopped in a single grocery store that refused to place or fill special orders for customers. At a store with small volume, I have insisted that a customer buy a certain percentage of my minimum order. It might be impossible to move an entire case of tongue or oxtail or side of lamb unless the person requesting it buy at least half. Many times customers aren't happy about it, but can a consumer really expect a manager to order in several hundred dollars worth of product that won't sell?

Furthermore, I've always encouraged special ordering, especially around the holidays. It prevents rushes and empty cases. Most any store will gladly fulfill the request of any customer, assuming that it is legal, financially feasible for both client and store (and sometimes for an exceptionally good client, they overlook the profitability), and won't destroy the productivity.

The precut, pre-packaged beef sold at stores such as Wal-Mart are the products the consumer should actually scorn. Theses places don't even hire butchers anymore, and cannot fulfill your requests because they're limited in their ordering and don't have the facilities to do so. This is not the type of service that consumers should put up with. If you shop in a grocery store that doesn't offer a full service meat case, you should find another store. If you're so remote as to only have places like Wal-Mart to shop, you likely live rurally enough for there to be plenty of meat processors who will sell sides and quarters of beef and hog to order—your specific order.

That Ms. Black thinks that it would be a surprise that convenience products are the most profitable for the meat counter is a surprise in and of itself. “Value-Added” product is the bread and butter of the entire food industry, from three-star restaurants to the local Sizzler salad bar. I sell assembled sirloin kabobs at four dollars a pound and am not only making my usual 100% markup on the sirloin, but I'm also making 400% markup on the veggies. The money savvy consumer should already realize this. When I shop for chicken, I don't buy anything other than whole fryers because I know how marked up the parts are. I assemble my own kabobs at home and pay retail for the veggies instead of the marked up price from the case. I make my own marinades at home. People pay more for convince foods all throughout the store, so why should the meat case be any different?

Aside from the previously mentioned convenience foods, and poultry in general, her assertion regarding added salinity is completely untrue . Chickens, turkeys and ducks are all brined before hand, often in the case of IQF (individually quick frozen) chicken breasts, much higher than necessary. This is mainly done for flavor. Can you imagine how dry your thanksgiving turkey would be if there wasn't at least a 6% brine added to the turkey? The average or below average cook's nightly chicken dinner? They would taste like rubber. Saline is like hedging your bet that the consumer will ruin your product. Brining has become more and more en vogue, but often it's completely redundant. As far as beef and pork, the USDA does NOT allow this. It does not occur. Beef and pork are nearly always sold natural and minimally processed. In the case of the meat case, it is never done.

So farwe've made it halfway though Ms. Black's article and not one of her points have been true of the industry as a whole, or even as a majority. But the second half, she beings to make some decent points, although poorly researched and not coming to a complete thought on them.

"You are what the animal eats."

"This beef's 'all natural' — whatever that means."

Ruminants are no longer fed bone meal made from ruminants. It's that simple. The recent crackdown on BSE has made that illegal, and the Cattlemen's Association has been discouraging it for even longer than that. Our beef supply isn't the safest, especially without mandatory testing for BSE, but our beef supply is not at grave risk. Sure, free range, grass fed cattle is best, especially for the discriminating taste, but is it affordable? Consumers are outraged when I show them the wholesale price of organic, free range cattle. It's as if they can't seem to realize that it is much, much more expensive to produce. It requires vast stretches of land, three years of dormancy of the land (what rancher can afford to let acres lay unused for years?) and many more ranch hands to drive the cattle than are used within feed lots.

What she neglects to point out is this: fifty years ago, the crème de la crème of beef was grainfed. Feeding grain to cattle produces fatter, tastier beef, but people didn't do it often because it was expensive and wasteful. Most people today haven't ever had grass fed beef, and many who have don't care for the taste. It has a strong, distinct, grassy taste. People should be concerned with the health of the animal and use of hormones, antibiotics and pesticides, but they should also be willing to pay the costs. It's simple supply and demand at this point.

Another point that she addresses that the consumer needs to know for their own health and safety is the issue of ground beef and I absolutely stand by this. Most places get pre-ground tubes of beef and then run it through a grinder a second time. These pre-ground beef products, along with pre-made beef patties are the main source of E. Coli. I almost always by whole-muscle meats and grind them (through a freshly sanitized grinder) for my own personal consumption, especially because I like my burgers rare. Whole muscles are nearly impossible to be a carrier for E.Coli. I gladly tell my clientèle this too, if they ask me what the best is, and I have no problem doing for them what I do for myself. I find that most people just don't care, and most people who regularly consume ground beef cook it thoroughly, anyway.

But as she makes some good points, she starts to lose it again:

"It's not all that clean back here."

Every place I've ever worked at or shopped at is probably cleaner than your home kitchen. Really. Do you scrub down every work surface every day, and use a sanitizer solution on every submersible part? Are your floors and walls washable? And I don't mean just a damp sponging? The only problem that I have ever run into was starting at a chain grocery store where in between species of animals they would simply wipe the boards with a rag soaked in sanitizer. This is a somewhat serious cross contamination issue, and I called the health department. The chance of actual transmission of food-borne illness is slim to none if you're cooking your food to the recommended temperature, but that's the worst I can come up with. Most stores have extensive ServeSafe training, and have major measures in place to prevent food-borne illness transmission. The last thing a store wants to be is culpable for the illness of a customer due to their product. In all my training this has been constantly drilled into the heads of the meat cutters

Our best option as consumers is to just look around. Watch the workers for a few minutes. Look at the floors. Look for dust. If there's dust, then things aren't being cleaned on a regular basis. Most markets are perfectly clean.

"These pork chops could come from anywhere."

After Canada confirmed cases of mad cow in 2003, consumers suddenly became interested in the origin of their meat. But it's not often easy to tell. Meat from Argentina, Australia and Canada, among other places, is available in supermarkets, bearing a USDA stamp.
I'd love to see her source on this. The borders are now completely closed for beef, fowl and pork imports. There are multiple injunctions in place, the majority still there despite stricter laws in places like Canada regarding the testing of meat. “Exotic meats” such as goat and lamb are allowed in, but are required to display the country of origin, and are inspected by the USDA. Even if not prominently displayed at the point of sale, your butcher can tell you the source in a heartbeat because all of the incoming meat is clearly marked.

At last she attempts to address the issue that all consumers should be most aware of when buying meat--their own health and the risk of food-borne illness. However, it is much simpler to control than she makes it out to be. There are two main threats to your health when buying meat in America: E.Coli through pre-ground meats and patties, and Salmonella, which affects 1 in 2 chickens sold in the US. Both of these are easily prevented with the right handling and cooking. In fact, all meat in the US is sold with a safe handling label. Follow this and you're fine.

“Freeze or refrigerate meat as soon as possible after buying it, and thaw in the refrigerator, not on the counter. Cook meat thoroughly; juices should be brown, not pink or red. Place cooked meat on clean plates, and never reuse dishes that have been in contact with raw meat. Finally, serve immediately, or keep meat hot,”are the words she leaves us with. The best part of her article, and information that any butcher will gladly share with you.

Here are my tips to you, dear reader. Choose a reliable butcher that is bright, clean, friendly and is willing to get to know you by name. Always be friendly, never argumentative, and express your interest and knowledge. Ask questions. Ask for recommendations. Become a regular. You will receive the best service if the meat man knows that he has to retain you as a customer for the good of the business.

Oh, and a nice tip at Christmastime will always ensure you get the very choicest cuts.

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Comment from: Emmef [Visitor] · http://eatitupnow.blogspot.com
Awesome post, really informative. It's great to have a professional's perspective on the stuff one reads in the news. Thanks for sharing this.
PermalinkPermalink 12/06/05 @ 09:21
Comment from: Barbara Fisher [Visitor] · http://www.tigersandstrawberries.com/
Excellent, Jace--I didn't read the entire original article all the way through--if I had, I would have taken exception to the cleanliness factor of meat cutting areas as well.

The point you make about how clean most food-handling facilities compared to home kitchens is spot-on. Every professional kitchen or meat cutting area or processing facility (and being as I live in a basically rural area, I have been in lots of the small processing places) are way, way cleaner than the average kitchen, even when people are breaking down primals or subprimals like mad. The smell of disinfectant and clean water usually overpower the smell of meat to my nose in those places--because the walls are wiped down at least once a day, the the floors completely scrubbed and hosed down and the tables wiped down more than once.

Meat cutters and butchers (I am related to quite a few of them) are some of the most obsessively clean food handlers out there--because they have to be.

As for Serv-Safe certification, as I recall, the regulations on this vary from state to state, but most states require that at least one person in the meat department of grocery stores be Serv-Safe certified, and undergo ongoing training in HACCP procedures.
PermalinkPermalink 12/06/05 @ 09:29
Comment from: Helen Rennie [Visitor] · http://www.beyondsalmon.com
Jace,

Thank you so much for such great information about meat. It's a shame that they scare us to death about food-born illness in US. I was wondering, what is meat's shelf life after it's butchered. How long does it take for the supermarket to get it, and how long can you keep it after you buy it if you want to eat it rare? Is there any real reason for pregrant women to avoid undercooked steaks? Sorry for bombarding you with questions. It's not often I get a chance to learn from a knowledgeable butcher.

Cheers,
-Helen
PermalinkPermalink 12/06/05 @ 09:43
Comment from: barrett [Visitor] · http://www.toomanychefs.com
Aaaaand this would be why I nominated you for the best Food Industry coverage. Great original post and great response.
PermalinkPermalink 12/06/05 @ 11:47
Comment from: Dr. Biggles [Visitor] · http://www.meathenge.com
Wahoo! Hey Kate, thanks for inviting Jace over, that was really nice. I get so tired of people who spew forth wild accusations and untruths only to be believed by the wandering masses. It's nice to have this type of venue where the record can be set straight. Thanks for your time Jace, take care and have fun!

Biggles
PermalinkPermalink 12/06/05 @ 14:25
Comment from: Andrea [Visitor] · http://andreayaya.typepad.com/rookie_cookery/
Great post! Thanks Jace and Kate.
PermalinkPermalink 12/06/05 @ 16:06
Comment from: Jace [Visitor] · http://confessionsofabutcher.blogspot.com
Thanks everyone. It's nice to be able to set the record straight

Helen Rennie:
Average lead time to market from slaughter is about a week.

As far as the sell-by-date, the most common limit commercially is 4 days from cutting. I would never suggest more than another day or two in your fridge. Check the use-by on the package, and add another day or two , and that's a good indication of how long meat will keep. I don't recommend buying ground beef until you're ready to use that day or the next. Ground meats have a much shorter shelf life and as I indicated above, are the most susceptible to food borne illness.

I don't know of any reason to not eat rare steaks or roasts (temp of at least 145F) for pregnant women. Things such as ground meats, seafood, pork, and poultry all need to cooked to higher temperatures for those with compromised immune systems, but whole muscle beef is fine as long as it's cooked to temp.
PermalinkPermalink 12/06/05 @ 16:56
Comment from: Nicholas Caratzas [Visitor]
Excellent post! Thank you thank you thank you!

One question, though. Jace says: "Beef and pork are nearly always sold natural and minimally processed," and also, with regard to brining says "the USDA doesn't allow this."

It's definitely true that my local supermarkets' meat is as Jace described; however, virtually all the cuts in the meat case at Super Wal-Mart bear a fine-print disclosure that they are "enhanced with XX% flavor solution" (paraphrasing.)
Wal-Mart's even hailed this sort of thing as the wave of the future:
Peterson: I think the whole idea of solutions, or "pumped" product, is going to revolutionize the meat industry over time. The solution process will ultimately be one of providing a flavor profile. This is no different in meat than in other foods. "Cooking" at home is becoming a lost art - much by choice - therefore the consumer is expecting to buy a piece of meat that has a particular flavor profile, stick it in the oven for 15-20 minutes and yet have something they remember eating when they were growing up. [Obviously they're not going after the readers of this blog!]

...The fresh beef area is one of the last great food bastions that have been generally untampered.

Preservative issues are more a factor of the packaging, as opposed to the solution itself. Clearly there are color stabilization benefits with the herb-based solutions we use.


The "enhanced with" disclaimer is in real tiny print and it's real easy to miss if you're not looking for it, but it's there. I'm sure people go in there all the time and buy cuts based on price, not realizing that they are paying for water.

Just another reason not to buy meat from Wal-Mart, I guess.

So anyway, is Wal-Mart getting around the brining restriction with that tiny disclaimer, or is it that their "herb-based solution" doesn't qualify as brine?

PermalinkPermalink 12/06/05 @ 17:50
Comment from: Jace [Visitor] · http://confessionsofabutcher.blogspot.com
USDA doesn't allow brined subprimals. These meats at Walmart (and SuperTarget, and I'm sure others now) are not like the meats in your grocer's case and are treated differently by the USDA. Tyson's (and Hormel) offer pre-cut, low-oxygen packed to retailers, and these are treated like packaged meat, not fresh meat under USDA guidelines.
PermalinkPermalink 12/06/05 @ 19:05
Comment from: Nicholas Caratzas [Visitor]
Jace, thanks for the info!

Wal-Mart's especially sneaky with their packaging; "fresh" beef comes on foam trays wrapped with clear plastic and sporting a supermarket-style price/weight sticker. From the aisle, the meat display looks just like a supermarket's (well, except that it's the length of a military airstrip!)

Nowhere, save for the labels' fine print, is there any indication of the differences between their cuts and the higher-priced ones at the neighborhood grocery. So, unless Wal-Mart has the world's worst marketing department, Peterson's implication that he's selling "pumped" product in response to the modern consumer's lifestyle doesn't hold up to scrutiny (but why does that not surprise me? :)
PermalinkPermalink 12/07/05 @ 02:01
Comment from: iain [Visitor]
This rebuttal seems to be missing the point, I think. Sure - you can get better meat if you look for it (a point that is made repeatedly in the original article) - but many of these practices are prevalent in large supermarket chains outside of WalMart and Target. A&P in northern NJ, for example, only sells "enhanced" pork. There's not a scrap of untreated pork to be found. And - true to the article - it's mushy and salty. How can you claim that this DOES NOT occur?
PermalinkPermalink 12/07/05 @ 09:34
Comment from: Gene Lane [Visitor]
Jace, I must take exception to your remark as follows:
"It doesn't take much skill at all to break down a side of beef, hence Tyson/IBP, Excell, et. al's ability to pay unskilled, immigrant labor to do this for them. If you showed an experienced retail meat cutter where the primals come from (not that they wouldn't have a general idea anyway), I'm sure they could do it with minimal instruction."

Saying that is like saying anyone who can get a motor apart is a mechanic! Just not true.

I have worked in the meat industry for about 40 years (as both a Retail Meatcutter and a Butcher, or farm slaughterer) and can tell you that "breaking beef" or dividing it into primals is an exacting science IF IT IS DONE PROPERLY!

Ever notice that the shortloins in box beef are wedge shaped? This requires cutting the loin steaks just a bit thinner at the tail to even it out or having a large waste portion on the rib end. Where do you cut/break the knuckle in order not to cut thru the tri-tip? Where do you break the shortloin from the headloin to make sure that your first porterhouse doesnt have a large pinbone that renders it inedable? How do you angle the cut between the chuck and the rib to ensure a no-waste chuck? That "clean-up cut" to square up the chuck ends up as waste and grind. Lost profit!

And I can tell you, as owner of Lane's Market, that truely qualified Meat-cutters are a rareity to find! Mimimal instruction? I dont think so.

Yes, the minimally instructed Meastcutter could get the carcasses apart.

But would you really consider them mechanics?

Thnks for a great article in spite of that! lol
PermalinkPermalink 07/23/06 @ 21:01
Comment from: cal [Visitor]
I am a woman applying for a job as a butcher at a local grocery store (not Walmart). What can I say or do at my interview to be taken seriously. I have no formal training. The position provides on the job training. I know alot about meat from a homemaker's perspective.
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